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Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by Grishnakh »

bliti wrote: post #108
m741 wrote: post #62

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Profession is literally 'a paid occupation' and homemakers aren't paid - so homemaking would be an occupation but not a profession. Furthermore, as the parent mentioned, there aren't really unmarried homemakers, except those who are independently wealthy. Someone may be a physicist or nurse and then _become_ a homemaker. All this isn't to to say that homemaking isn't challenging or exhausting (it can be), just that i…

Good points. I did not consider it being an occupation and not a profession. Thank you.

Yeah, it's a matter of definitions. A "profession" is something you do that you get paid for. No one sends paychecks to homemakers. An "occupation", however, is something you do to occupy your time (hence the term, "occupation"). Usually, they're one in the same, but not always: if you don't need a paycheck, you can have an occupation as a homemaker, a philanthropist, a volunteer, a socialite, etc.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by tajen »

NTDF9 wrote: post #92
peter303 wrote: post #22

Business Insider has run several articles of the urban college female "problem". With 30% more females obtaining college degrees currently than males plus that males generally dont marry up, there is a surplus of 20-something college females in all metropolitan areas except San Francisco and Washington DC. Good news for guys then. One silly article tried explain the success of hookup apps is that more desperate femal…

Funny you bring this up. I was on a date last Thursday and this girl (29 yrs old) was constantly trying to figure out how she was better than me....IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE. For example, she went on and on about how she is a badass since she went to the Amazon forests to a nice touristy shack with a guide and a bar. She told stories of hammocks, mosquito nets, snakes, insects and other wild stuff. After a long time, sh…

I don't think you're the massive ego. There is a competition nowadays to who's done more. Actually when people tell it, it's not that they want to be the best. It's that they want a minimum, and that minimum is perhaps "At least my partner has to be able to enjoy travelling" or "At least my partner must have seen enough different situations so he will be flexible and compassionate if I become broke/superrich or if we have friends from variety X or Y". Maybe try to decrypt what she was asking for and she'll notice you're on the same wavelength. Don't let that mold into a competition.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by seizethecheese »

throwaway8818 wrote: post #12

Yoga instructor is missing. That's pretty much the ideal wife (lots of free time, unreasonably fit), and I'd like to know what job to obtain in order to be pursued by yoga instructors. And DJ is missing. Which prevents us from confirming the hypothesis that DJ's do better than JD's. http://longorshortcapital.com/short-jds.htm Most men seek the JD to “make a lot of money” which is really just a euphemism for “power ov…

> Yoga instructor is missing. That's pretty much the ideal wife (lots of free time, unreasonably fit)

I see why you made a throwaway account to make this comment, but am surprised you haven't been downvoted into oblivion. Does HN really need it to be pointed out how sexist this comment is?

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by aussieindian »

balls187 wrote: post #141
auntyJemima wrote: post #74

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Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> Males generally dont marry up? My wife has a PhD, and is a Senior Data Scientist (why not Chief, who knows), and belongs to a noble Swedish/Finnish family. I am P.O.C. trash, from a (mostly) poor town in S Tacoma, WA. I hit the jackpot. > Unfortunately, their standards have really gone up since receiving said education. I'm not saying this to bash, it's simply my observation. I suspect that part of it has to do wit…

Looks like you have some alpha traits and don't act as a doormat. So not surprised you hit the "jackpot". Any guy who maintains frame and dominance can do the same.

women go for men who can either provide for them or can act as the captain. Have a look at the [1]redpillwoman sub for examples of the latter & anywhere else for the former.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/RedPillWomen

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by lawnchair_larry »

cvwright wrote: post #153
oh_sigh wrote: post #71

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> Most men seek the JD to “make a lot of money” which is really just a euphemism for “power over women.” The first sentence is so wrong, I can't even bother reading on.

Don't bother, it only gets worse. The level of misogyny and sexism in this thread is way beyond what I expect from HN. What happened to professionalism and treating others with respect, guys? When our female colleagues complain about sexism in tech, stuff like this is (part of) what they're complaining about.

Funny, you think it was written by a man. I thought it was written by a woman.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by Grishnakh »

joehilton wrote: post #84
nilkn wrote: post #4

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Of all the lines starting at 'Dancers and Choreographers' which are initially red, the thickest one is by far the one that is blue at the other end and ends at 'Welding, Soldering, and Brazing Workers'. I think that's the intended way of drawing that conclusion from the graph. Overall I'm satisfied with the visualization itself, but it would be nice to have more sorting options.

This is one of the interesting connections on the chart. My theory (being an ex-welder as well as a dancer) is that both of these are strongly one-gender dominated professions - almost all my welding friends were male and almost all my dancing friends were female (in three different states no less). And for the majority of marriages up to this point in largely heterosexual historical data, you don't meet many people…

So how are software developers supposed to meet women?

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by aussieindian »

auntyJemima wrote: post #143
copperx wrote: post #85

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> My sister and her friends are all pretty educated women. What do you mean by this exactly? PhDs? MDs? > These days, they're all still single and reaching/past 30 and no man can scratch their itch. Could you give examples of the occupations of the rejected suitors?

Yes, they include PhDs, DDS, Architecture, Mech Engineering. Their rejected list is guys that don't have much all the way to degrees in mining engineering. Software engineering tends to be what they "settle" for or are ok with. One, because software engineers make decent enough money and if they discounted them, they'd be throwing away a huge and competent group of men.

I suspect unfortunately many Software guys act thirsty when young and get confident around women only into their 30's.

Just as their stock raises,they settle for late 20's & 30's women who has had her fun and now wants to play mommy ( not wifey)

Such a travesty that many a men are blind to the redpill truths https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedRedPill

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by switchbak »

vinceguidry wrote: post #142
NTDF9 wrote: post #92

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Funny you bring this up. I was on a date last Thursday and this girl (29 yrs old) was constantly trying to figure out how she was better than me....IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE. For example, she went on and on about how she is a badass since she went to the Amazon forests to a nice touristy shack with a guide and a bar. She told stories of hammocks, mosquito nets, snakes, insects and other wild stuff. After a long time, sh…

I have a better explanation. She was talking about the kinds of stuff she was into, and didn't sense that you were into the same things. Then when you said you did do stuff like that, she was interested because you had more in common. She didn't have an ego, you did. If you didn't, you guys could have talked all about the particulars of the stories she was telling, interspersing with similar tales from your adventure…

Honestly, you weren't there, you have no idea what kind of tone / non-verbal cues she was putting out there.

It's entirely possible you're right, but all you know about the situation is what he's written here. Without any other information, I'm inclined to believe what he's saying.

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