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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by balls187 »

auntyJemima wrote: post #74
peter303 wrote: post #22

Business Insider has run several articles of the urban college female "problem". With 30% more females obtaining college degrees currently than males plus that males generally dont marry up, there is a surplus of 20-something college females in all metropolitan areas except San Francisco and Washington DC. Good news for guys then. One silly article tried explain the success of hookup apps is that more desperate femal…

Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> Males generally dont marry up?

My wife has a PhD, and is a Senior Data Scientist (why not Chief, who knows), and belongs to a noble Swedish/Finnish family.

I am P.O.C. trash, from a (mostly) poor town in S Tacoma, WA.

I hit the jackpot.

> Unfortunately, their standards have really gone up since receiving said education. I'm not saying this to bash, it's simply my observation.

I suspect that part of it has to do with the circles you hang out in. If you are a non-professional man, you are less likely to interact with professional women. If you do, you will have more chance to pair-wise bond. Anecdotally, a guy I train Krav Maga with, works at the maintenance crew at a local hotel. His wife has a degree in Aerospace Engineering. They met at a gym.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by vinceguidry »

NTDF9 wrote: post #92
peter303 wrote: post #22

Business Insider has run several articles of the urban college female "problem". With 30% more females obtaining college degrees currently than males plus that males generally dont marry up, there is a surplus of 20-something college females in all metropolitan areas except San Francisco and Washington DC. Good news for guys then. One silly article tried explain the success of hookup apps is that more desperate femal…

Funny you bring this up. I was on a date last Thursday and this girl (29 yrs old) was constantly trying to figure out how she was better than me....IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE. For example, she went on and on about how she is a badass since she went to the Amazon forests to a nice touristy shack with a guide and a bar. She told stories of hammocks, mosquito nets, snakes, insects and other wild stuff. After a long time, sh…

I have a better explanation. She was talking about the kinds of stuff she was into, and didn't sense that you were into the same things. Then when you said you did do stuff like that, she was interested because you had more in common.

She didn't have an ego, you did. If you didn't, you guys could have talked all about the particulars of the stories she was telling, interspersing with similar tales from your adventures.

But no, you wanted to prove that you were better than her. So you let her talk thinking not of having an actual conversation with her, but wanting to go on your spiel.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by auntyJemima »

copperx wrote: post #85
auntyJemima wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> My sister and her friends are all pretty educated women. What do you mean by this exactly? PhDs? MDs? > These days, they're all still single and reaching/past 30 and no man can scratch their itch. Could you give examples of the occupations of the rejected suitors?

Yes, they include PhDs, DDS, Architecture, Mech Engineering. Their rejected list is guys that don't have much all the way to degrees in mining engineering. Software engineering tends to be what they "settle" for or are ok with. One, because software engineers make decent enough money and if they discounted them, they'd be throwing away a huge and competent group of men.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by NTDF9 »

balls187 wrote: post #138
NTDF9 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funny you bring this up. I was on a date last Thursday and this girl (29 yrs old) was constantly trying to figure out how she was better than me....IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE. For example, she went on and on about how she is a badass since she went to the Amazon forests to a nice touristy shack with a guide and a bar. She told stories of hammocks, mosquito nets, snakes, insects and other wild stuff. After a long time, sh…

Honestly, you both sound pretty lame.

True.

Unfortunately, I can't remain humble when my date starts a brag-fest like high school kids.

Humility is sometimes taken as cowardice or shyness.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by balls187 »

NTDF9 wrote: post #144
balls187 wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, you both sound pretty lame.

True. Unfortunately, I can't remain humble when my date starts a brag-fest like high school kids. Humility is sometimes taken as cowardice or shyness.

My rule: unless it was TERRIBLE, I always try for a 2nd date. Too much variability in a first date to draw meaningful conclusions.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by Grishnakh »

copperx wrote: post #85
auntyJemima wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> My sister and her friends are all pretty educated women. What do you mean by this exactly? PhDs? MDs? > These days, they're all still single and reaching/past 30 and no man can scratch their itch. Could you give examples of the occupations of the rejected suitors?

I can't speak for him but I'm a bit over 40 and single again, and looking. What I'm seeing in the DC metro area is a ton of single women in my age range who are single and never married, and all of a sudden now they want to get married and have kids. (Some of them want kids, some don't.) So not "pushing 30", but "pushing 40". Other data I've seen shows that there's a big surplus of single women in both the NYC and DC metro areas. OTOH, in Seattle and the Bay Area, there's a big surplus of single men. (There's a smaller surplus in Portland.)

My problem is that I don't live quite in the DC area, I'm about an hour away from downtown DC. And what I'm finding is that the desirable single women all live right in downtown DC, and do not want to date a man who lives an hour away. Now, if there were a healthy market of compatible men, this attitude would be quite understandable. But we're talking about a bunch of women who are bitching that they can't find any decent men to date, but then I come along and I'm told, "you look great, but you're too far away!! Sorry, but give me a ring when you move closer."

So IMO, these women are extremely picky and unrealistic. If I find someone I really like and might want to marry, I would move to be closer to her, just like married couples routinely move long-distance because one of them got a new job. I've even stated this up-front, as I do not plan to stay in my current location long-term (I'm a software engineer like probably half the audience here, our jobs don't last that long and we move around a lot). So as far as I can tell, many of these women have done this to themselves by being way too picky and having overly high expectations. They think they're going to find a guy who looks like George Clooney or whatever, has a $250j/year career, and lives across the street from them.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by waleedka »

NTDF9 wrote: post #92
peter303 wrote: post #22

Business Insider has run several articles of the urban college female "problem". With 30% more females obtaining college degrees currently than males plus that males generally dont marry up, there is a surplus of 20-something college females in all metropolitan areas except San Francisco and Washington DC. Good news for guys then. One silly article tried explain the success of hookup apps is that more desperate femal…

Funny you bring this up. I was on a date last Thursday and this girl (29 yrs old) was constantly trying to figure out how she was better than me....IN EVERY FACET OF LIFE. For example, she went on and on about how she is a badass since she went to the Amazon forests to a nice touristy shack with a guide and a bar. She told stories of hammocks, mosquito nets, snakes, insects and other wild stuff. After a long time, sh…

Sorry, man. Based on what you wrote and how you wrote it I'm sensing that you might be the one with the massive ego.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by dba7dba »

I once knew a male high school teacher who was married to a Yale dropout, after 1 year. He told me she had gone to Yale to meet someone to marry well. Apparently common that time, 40 years ago.

Although it didn't quite work out well for her. He was a great msn husband but not a doctor or lawyer...

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Post by civilian »

JabavuAdams wrote: post #109
throwaway8818 wrote: post #12

Yoga instructor is missing. That's pretty much the ideal wife (lots of free time, unreasonably fit), and I'd like to know what job to obtain in order to be pursued by yoga instructors. And DJ is missing. Which prevents us from confirming the hypothesis that DJ's do better than JD's. http://longorshortcapital.com/short-jds.htm Most men seek the JD to “make a lot of money” which is really just a euphemism for “power ov…

Yoga instructors believe a lot of crazy things. For long-term happiness, you need to consider ideological, religious / spiritual, and financial compatibility. If someone bombarded me with pseudoscience everyday, I'd have a hard time keeping a long-term relationship, no matter how hot the sex.

You should get an amethyst so that you can align your 3rd chakra, you beautiful diety.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

#150

Post by meow_mix »

pbnjay wrote: post #15

I find it interesting that many of the IT/Engineering/Tech jobs have a high degree of connectivity to elementary/middle school teachers. So the high salaries are helping to balance out the crap salaries.

Like the previous post stated, this is likely just because there are many nurses and elementary school teachers. There was no statement that the graph corrected for this.
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