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Re: Introducing OpenAI

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Post by colordrops »

This reminds me a bit of all the hype around space elevators several years ago. People were talking about it like it was an inevitable achievement in the near future, nearly oblivious to the huge challenges and unsolved problems necessary to make it happen.

I haven't seen anything but very rudimentary single-domain problems solved that point to incremental improvement, so I'm wondering if these billionaire investors are privy to demos the rest of us are not, and thus have real reason to be so cautious.

Re: Introducing OpenAI

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Post by argonaut »

skndr wrote: post #139
karmacondon wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I've said many times on HN over the years, there is currently no clear path to science fiction like "AI". To return your question, hopefully without being rude, is there any proof that AI capable of having a moral disposition will ever exist? Andrew Ng (I believe) compared worrying about evil AI to worrying about overpopulation on Mars. Which is to say, the problem is so far off that it's rather silly to be consid…

Improvements in AI aren't linear, though. Artificial Superintelligence, after reaching AGI, might happen in the span of minutes or days. I imagine the idea here is to guide progress so that on the day that AGI is possible, we've already thoroughly considered what happens after that point. Secondly - it's not necessarily about 'evil' AI. It's about AI indifferent to human life. Have a look at this article, it provides…

> Improvements in AI aren't linear, though

This is a point everyone makes, but it hasn't been proven anywhere. Progress in AI as a field has always been a cycle of hype and cool-down.

Edit (reply to below). Talk about self-bootstrapping AIs, etc. is just speculation.

Re: Introducing OpenAI

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Post by tim333 »

colordrops wrote: post #171

This reminds me a bit of all the hype around space elevators several years ago. People were talking about it like it was an inevitable achievement in the near future, nearly oblivious to the huge challenges and unsolved problems necessary to make it happen. I haven't seen anything but very rudimentary single-domain problems solved that point to incremental improvement, so I'm wondering if these billionaire investors…

AI has been progressing in a fairly predictable way as computers get faster and gradually ticking off milestones like beating us and chess and driving cars with less crashes. There are only a finite number of such skill areas to tick off.

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Post by iopq »

hacker_9 wrote: post #107
iopq wrote: post #92

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If you have to forget, your memory is not infinite. My computer's HD is infinite, but you have to remove programs that you don't use.

Well technically yes, but I could counter argue that we have 'living memories' that we can not only replay at any time (any of them, without any buffering or delay), but also change and combine with other memories to create new memories. Additionally if someone tells you something the brain can search all your memories in what seems to be a microsecond and pull up the relevant ones (file search on steroids, that can…

Except when you can't remember something and you have to spend seconds, or even minutes trying to remember it.

A hard drive would find it much faster.

Re: Introducing OpenAI

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Post by argonaut »

jedberg wrote: post #175
argonaut wrote: post #169

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I'm not aware of any research lab that uses AWS for these things. It's cheaper to just buy the GPU yourself.

AWS is a sponsor of this, which probably means a bunch of free resources.

g2.8xlarge also only has 4GB of VRAM per GPU, which is too small for most recent deep learning models. The TitanX GPU has 12GB, by comparison.

Re: Introducing OpenAI

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Post by argonaut »

tim333 wrote: post #176
colordrops wrote: post #171

This reminds me a bit of all the hype around space elevators several years ago. People were talking about it like it was an inevitable achievement in the near future, nearly oblivious to the huge challenges and unsolved problems necessary to make it happen. I haven't seen anything but very rudimentary single-domain problems solved that point to incremental improvement, so I'm wondering if these billionaire investors…

AI has been progressing in a fairly predictable way as computers get faster and gradually ticking off milestones like beating us and chess and driving cars with less crashes. There are only a finite number of such skill areas to tick off.

This is a weird reading of history. AI progress has been anything but predictable or steady.
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