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The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by im2w1l »

matthewmacleod wrote: post #120
pmoriarty wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article is not about "scaring you with science". It's about accuracy and honesty in labelling. Don't label something "natural" or "100% fresh juice" if it's not.

To some extent that's right, but it's also riddled with unsourced assertions and pseudoscience. It's not really a good source. The point you make is a more complex one than you seem to be implying. What does it mean for something to be "natural"? Is pasteurisation natural? What about homogenisation? Packaging?

Where I'm from (idk about elsewhere) pasteurized and homogenized milk is labelled as such. It is not something companies try to hide from consumers and it is not something consumers try to avoid.

That's how I think it should work. Honest labeling, and letting consumers decide.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by [deleted] »

Kluny wrote: post #110
oneeyedpigeon wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It all depends on your reason for drinking OJ in the first place. Maybe you, grecy, drink OJ primarily for the nutritional value of it. But i'll bet pounds to pennies that the average person drinks it primarily, and maybe only, because they enjoy the taste. And because the human body needs and craves fluids, of course.

It's not like HN readers invented the concept of eating healthy. Many people drink orange juice because they want something sweet but perceive orange juice as healthier than soda. This perception is false, but it's one of the biggest drivers of the juice industry.

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Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by Pxtl »

Frustrating that we either give up on natural foods or on the economies of scale and industrialization.

With two incomes and 3 kids, my family has no time for homemade organic fermented (!?) Lemonade.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by branchless »

zensavona wrote: post #144
kuschku wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did that at Edeka in Germany recently. It was the only time I bought orange juice that literally tasted fresh made. Well, because it was ^.^

I've been living in Germany for 6 months now and I'm so impressed by the availability of natural products. There is at least one Biomarkt ("natural supermarket") in walking distance pretty much everywhere in Berlin. There's also startups like Bonativo which deliver fresh and locally produced products and produce regularly (it is a bit expensive though). I love that there are at least these options should you want the…

Berlin has low rent compared to most cities. I think they also introduced rent caps.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by pyre »

beloch wrote: post #87

"Juice removed from the fruit is just concentrated fructose without any of the naturally-occurring fiber, pectin, and other goodies that make eating a whole fruit good for you. Did you know, for example, that it takes 6-8 medium sized apples to make just 1 cup of apple juice? You probably wouldn’t be able to eat 6-8 medium apples in a single sitting. (I know I can barely eat one!) But you can casually throw back a cu…

> If you're going to eat something sweet, it's far better for you if it comes combined with fibre.

My question is if the fibre has to be whole or not. If I put an apple into a high powered blender, it will get pulverized, but I'm not removing any fibre from it the way I would if I were running it through a juicer.

Does the "slowing" factor of the fibre depend on it being in clumps (i.e. a chunk of apple digests slower than apple sauce)?

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by wahnfrieden »

jheriko wrote: post #113

i'm not sure i care that much tbh. this is a tiny part of the price i pay for being able to buy it in a shop from bulk suppliers rather than having to juice my own fruit... besides that, i don't think its a heavy price to pay - i'm not sure i really see the harm tbh. its not like they are flavouring it with deadly toxic poisons.

For me, it just doesn't taste nearly as good. Try it fresh if you haven't recently. It's barely the same beverage at all.

Re: The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice

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Post by rdtsc »

MrTonyD wrote: post #131
beloch wrote: post #87

"Juice removed from the fruit is just concentrated fructose without any of the naturally-occurring fiber, pectin, and other goodies that make eating a whole fruit good for you. Did you know, for example, that it takes 6-8 medium sized apples to make just 1 cup of apple juice? You probably wouldn’t be able to eat 6-8 medium apples in a single sitting. (I know I can barely eat one!) But you can casually throw back a cu…

Well, my wife works for Martinelli's - and it definitely doesn't take 2+ apples to make a cup of apple juice. (I'm not saying that apple juice should be your first choice.) They also carefully monitor "brix", which is the amount of sugar in their juice. They have acceptable targets for that as well as other measures (including John Martinelli tasting the product almost daily.) Personally, I use my Vitamix to make my…

> But I'm skeptical about the "juice is bad" meme.

Are you skeptical of "sugar is bad" meme? If you are, not sure how sugar disolved in water is a different.

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