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The Secret Ingredient in Orange Juice
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#142I was always confused as to why "100% orange juice not from concentrate" tasted so wildly different from fresh squeezed orange juice. It's almost as if they are two completely separate drinks.
It's almost as if one had been pasteurised, more likely.
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You've "heard many times"? It's obviously safe enough that an entire country has one in every supermarket. Do you think that the health & safety service in The Netherlands is so bad that it wouldn't be noticed if these things were causing regular E. coli outbreaks?
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Again, wouldn't we hear about it if this happened often? I regularly hear about contamination on the other side of the country (e.g. Chipotle recently) and it seems rather unlikely that this could be anywhere near as common as you're claiming without making the news.
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#144This is one of the little things that make me happy about the Netherlands: the local market chains sell lots of minimally industrialized products. Orange juice tastes fresh and will spoil in a couple of days. If you still don't trust it, there are machines where you can choose fruit and squeeze your own juice. And it's usually cheaper than the big-brand alternatives.
I did that at Edeka in Germany recently. It was the only time I bought orange juice that literally tasted fresh made. Well, because it was ^.^
I've been living in Germany for 6 months now and I'm so impressed by the availability of natural products.
There is at least one Biomarkt ("natural supermarket") in walking distance pretty much everywhere in Berlin.
There's also startups like Bonativo which deliver fresh and locally produced products and produce regularly (it is a bit expensive though).
I love that there are at least these options should you want them.
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#145I know this article is trying to "scare me with science," but it actually makes me proud that science allows for orange juice year round. Fresh is always better than not fresh, but this is something we as a society should be proud of, not ashamed.
The article is not about "scaring you with science". It's about accuracy and honesty in labelling. Don't label something "natural" or "100% fresh juice" if it's not.
The only controversial aspect of "honesty in labeling" is that it would enable and empower FUD campaigns from the "scaring you with science" crowd. Saying that these issues are separate is like a coal salesperson saying "my product is about energy, not polluting the environment." Maybe you wish that were the case, but that does not make it so.
I don't want genetic engineering and industrial preservation techniques to go the way of nuclear energy -- discarded for an alternative that comparatively damages our health, damages our wallets, and damages the environment simply because the otherwise superior option has a higher coefficient of sensationality.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
You've "heard many times"? It's obviously safe enough that an entire country has one in every supermarket. Do you think that the health & safety service in The Netherlands is so bad that it wouldn't be noticed if these things were causing regular E. coli outbreaks?
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This is probably one of the most condescending things I have ever read.
> a lot of people (employees) don't know how to properly use juicers and they don't know that they need a proper cleaning after each user in order to prevent pathogens spreading.
If only there was some kind of method of knowledge transfer to these lowly peon workers who are clearly to stupid to know to clean things after use!
Ah yes, training.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or water. I've always found Dasani to have a suspiciously consistent and unique flavor and mouth feel.
I'll just remark that for water, I do want to drink a pure chemical, possibly with a little bit of minerals in, if it can't be helped.
Those little minerals are important. Purified water will pull minerals out of your system through osmotic pressure. http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutrientschap...
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll just remark that for water, I do want to drink a pure chemical, possibly with a little bit of minerals in, if it can't be helped.
I hope you dont mean pure h2o because that's dangerous.
I am very curious about your comment. how is pure h20 dangerous?
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#149"Juice removed from the fruit is just concentrated fructose without any of the naturally-occurring fiber, pectin, and other goodies that make eating a whole fruit good for you. Did you know, for example, that it takes 6-8 medium sized apples to make just 1 cup of apple juice? You probably wouldn’t be able to eat 6-8 medium apples in a single sitting. (I know I can barely eat one!) But you can casually throw back a cu…
Well, my wife works for Martinelli's - and it definitely doesn't take 2+ apples to make a cup of apple juice. (I'm not saying that apple juice should be your first choice.) They also carefully monitor "brix", which is the amount of sugar in their juice. They have acceptable targets for that as well as other measures (including John Martinelli tasting the product almost daily.) Personally, I use my Vitamix to make my…
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#150This author has a history of being on the wrong side of science, and fear mongers on the harms of GMO. For example:
http://www.foodrenegade.com/peru-bans-monsanto-gmos/
Just google GMO and this blog: https://www.google.com/search?q=GMO+site%3Afoodrenegade.com