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Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

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Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#162

If you're going to cheat, expect to be caught. If your search for sex involves putting any personal information online, definitely expect to be caught. If you don't want to be caught, be careful, use pseudonyms, and protect yourself from tracking. Or just ask for a divorce.

Or an open relationship. There are many options people may choose.

I know trans people and spouses of trans people who have done this.

Typically, one of them will come out and begin transition, but the other is 100% straight. They don't want to divorce, since they're still in love, but one of them isn't going to be attracted to the other anymore, so they agree to an open relationship so they can continue to be sexually satisfied while still remaining a couple.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#163

https://twitter.com/ftrain/status/623095490226159616

How is full name, address, credit card information, and private pictures and messages considered "just metadata"? Nothing about that is metadata.

He's making a joke about the NSA

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Or an open relationship. There are many options people may choose.

Tobias: You know, Lindsay, as a therapist, I have advised a number of couples to explore an open relationship where the couple remains emotionally committed, but free to explore extra-marital encounters. Lindsay: Well, did it work for those people? Tobias: No, it never does. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might, but ... But it might work for us.

Heh. Some people aren't up to it.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#165

It get's me that so many people are basically saying it serves these people right for using the service. I don't think that it matters that this is a "cheating" site, your privacy should still be guarded and it's not fair that all these people are being exposed. Secondly, I'd wager that many of the users sign up to use Ashley Madison for the thrill of the idea and probably aren't actually cheaters themselves or hooki…

The arm-chair morality here is mindblowing. Reminds me of when homosexuals developed aids in the 80s; "Serves them right."

I think people need to really stop it with the revenge fantasies for behaviors they dislike. If anything, AM reflects something that might change in society, namely if life-long monogamy makes sense. Many would argue that of course it does, but not too long ago these were the same people calling homosexually immoral as well.

Personally, I find monogamy questionable and from the few discussions I've had on this subject, many feel obligated to be monogamous only because of social convention. Considering the divorce rate, it seems to be the idea of marriage as this lifelong romantic bond may not be compatible with a modern lifestyle. Some of the happiest and most fulfilled people I know are on their second or third marriage or have non-traditional lifestyles in regards to the social contract they have with their SO(s).

Frankly, its none of our business is someone is cheating. Why do we suddenly feel the need to be busybodies in that regard? There's this sad kind of "I can fuck with you with my hax0r skills and report this to your wife" neckbeardism at play here. I wish we lived in a society where people minded their own business. Funny how HN's libertarianism takes a backseat to its largely Christian-Judeo moral roots. I don't see how cheating must compel someone to whistleblow. It just seems like a nerd powertrip to me.

My only issue here is that sex work is somehow still illegal and that means the ladies on AM can be, and probably are, victimized by pimps, human trafficking, etc. Shame that this narrative won't make the press but "OMG CHEATERS" will.

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In our leaders, cheating on one's spouse is problematic (and plays well in the media) because it is an extremely clear-cut example of being willing to violate one's most sacred vows for one's personal pleasure or convenience - not a quality that engenders much confidence in said leader's ability to honor the vows they made to serve the interests of their country and her citizens. Many of the other things you listed -…

Relationships are complex things. I'd consider the nuances of someone cheating that had a a dead bedroom, terminally ill partner, green card marriage, bisexuality, open marriage, or violent partner before a soldier doing, say, these things: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/09/cia-torture-r...

I agree with you, but please don't perpetuate the stereotype that bisexuals are inherently unfaithful or incapable of being content in a marriage. Bisexual doesn't mean "must have relationships with multiple genders" it just means "finds multiple genders sexually attractive". Married bisexuals exist, and they don't feel the need to have sex outside their marriages in any greater amount than married straight or gay people do.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#167

Let the bitcoin extortion begin... :-/

Would it be better if the extortion were in Euros or Yen?

No, because it would be a lot more traceable. Why do you think cryptolocker and its variants are suddenly popular. Bitcoin's relative anonymity allows it.

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#168

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Or an open relationship. There are many options people may choose.

That I'm fine with as long as it's open and honest. Alternatively, there is the Japanese angle of "It's not cheating if I pay for it."

"Is it adultery if I'm committing it at one end of a guy and he's committing it at the other end of that same guy?"

(Dan Savage, Colbert Report)

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#169
post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or an open relationship. There are many options people may choose.

Tobias: You know, Lindsay, as a therapist, I have advised a number of couples to explore an open relationship where the couple remains emotionally committed, but free to explore extra-marital encounters. Lindsay: Well, did it work for those people? Tobias: No, it never does. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might, but ... But it might work for us.

You believe it never works out?

Re: Online Cheating Site AshleyMadison Hacked

#170

What a blow for this company. What is the more ethical decision for a company in an ethically questionable business: shutting down the site and letting the hackers have their way, or allowing the hackers to release tons of private data? I feel a class action law suit on its way...

Yeah, I have to imagine that this company (or at least its current brand incarnation) is done. The primary thing that they're selling is discretion. That trust can't be rebuilt.
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