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Did you know that the United States navy shot down an Iranian commercial airliner in 1988? How do you think that was reported in western media compared to how MH17 was reported?
Like this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/flight80... http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/18/opinion/witness-to-iran-fl...
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I appreciate a reasoned response. However: 1. Propaganda: in Russia, the media is very tightly controlled by the Kremlin. This is not the case in the US and most Western countries. Russia can use propaganda easily, and it is in their interest. The stories come out of their media are suspiciously different from any other stories from anywhere else. Simplest explanation: they are using propaganda, or at least coloring…
Here's an air-strike on a civilian area, and a probable war crime committed by the Ukrainian government. It's gory, it's sickening. How many reporters from the Free Press covered this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=I91... All sides must be held to account for any crimes committed. However, it's hard to have any kind of rational discussion when so many people have a Pavlovian reaction to the…
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The situation in Ukraine is complicated, I agree. However, I believe Ukraine has the right to deal with their internal problems internally. This is like China saying "well, there are protests in DC, so let's roll the tanks right in and clean this mess up for them." > we can't cry foul at Russia arms/tanks showing up, considering what we give to Israel et al. also, considering Putin's track record, this is too brute f…
I assume you feel the same way about US invasions?
I am continually astounded by the amount of support Russia receives from HN commenters. Is it that the Russian propaganda so strong that it reaches all the way to the Bay area, or are there a lot of Russians on here? What I am wondering is when Russia will completely take over Ukraine and what will be the NATO position at that point? I have no delusions that NATO will not engage in any military conflict, since nobody…
I'm in a position where I'm mostly exposed to non-western information regarding the situation in Ukraine, since my girlfriend is Russian. It's funny to see the exact opposite story as the western media is giving. Stories about pro-russians being harassed by pro-western Urkainians and the government were (and are) abundant. From their point of view, a pro-russian government was illegitimately overthrown. General opini…
I am continually astounded by the amount of support Russia receives from HN commenters. Is it that the Russian propaganda so strong that it reaches all the way to the Bay area, or are there a lot of Russians on here? What I am wondering is when Russia will completely take over Ukraine and what will be the NATO position at that point? I have no delusions that NATO will not engage in any military conflict, since nobody…
As an American... Please don't read it as support for Russia but standard geopolitical fair. Because of the leaked Victoria Nuland phone call ( http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 ), it's pretty clear that the US is engaged in some clandestine nation-building in Ukraine. This is not democracy but corruption of democracy. In this situation, Russia is being an opportunist by securing its interests in the area…
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As an American... Please don't read it as support for Russia but standard geopolitical fair. Because of the leaked Victoria Nuland phone call ( http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957 ), it's pretty clear that the US is engaged in some clandestine nation-building in Ukraine. This is not democracy but corruption of democracy. In this situation, Russia is being an opportunist by securing its interests in the area…
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I think many hackers like me are quite anti-authorian and anti-establishment. The establishment and the media have clearly decided who the bad guys in the conflict are (Russia) and it's obvious from all the reporting. We remember what they reported in 2003 about wmd:s in Iraq so everything they say today must be read with suspicion. In many former USSR countries there are large Russian minorities living which was mov…
> We remember what they reported in 2003 about wmd:s in Iraq so everything they say today must be read with suspicion. I still don't get why people say that : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_Campaign http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=40142&Cr=iraq&C... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/jan/17/chemical-ali-de... And yet the idea that Saddam did not have - or use - chemical weapons is treated as go…
Are you serious?!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destr...
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http://ukraineatwar.blogspot.ru/2014/07/launch-location-dete... Not to mention BOTH Russian media and Russia-backed terrorists has admitted to downing the plane before it was even know it's MH17. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f00_1405864049 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emfVpkBKoow
I'm sorry, all of this material would be thrown out of court. We really need hard evidence that would stand up in a war crimes trial in the Hague. One guy blogging about pictures he found on the internet is not good enough!
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Like this? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/flight80... http://www.nytimes.com/1988/11/18/opinion/witness-to-iran-fl...
Yes, notice in the first article the copious justification and lack of denunciation or demonization. Completely different from MH17.
"Occupied Crimea" is a bit debatable isn't it? (seeing as the citizens voted for and celebrated joining with Russia)
Once I read "Occupied Crimea" I knew the map makers are biased, so don't waste your time on this site.