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Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by lotso »

commandar wrote: post #56
untog wrote: post #48

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Honestly? I don't really know why anyone bothers to do launch events like this any more. Post a bunch of images, videos and some bullet points about the product somewhere. Done.

Well, the Sony PS4 event was actually fairly well done, especially in comparison. There was a lot of noise about them holding off on showing the actual box, but they talked extensively about games, about the things you could do with the console like screen sharing with friends, and about what the new hardware meant for developers and the kinds of doors it'd open for games. It certainly wasn't without flaw, but it did…

I thought the Sony one was universally panned?

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by zurn »

cobrausn wrote: post #129
eclipxe wrote: post #121

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"what is usually called the 'bro gamer' demographic"? Just because I like Madden, I'm a "bro gamer" now? Get over yourself.

'bro gamer' is just a term used by some gamers to feel superior to the CoD demographic (which is everybody ). It seems to me to be a kind of signaling used to mark themselves out as 'serious' gamers who think about 'serious' issues while they blow stuff up and shoot zombies.

It's not a a stretch to call FPS games low brow.

I don't play FPS games, but I know smart and sensitive people who do. They don't pretend it's not a badly justified gorefest though, just like smart people who listen to Manowar don't.

A lot of people are very let down by games that get reviews just gushing over the plot and the atmosphere and puzzles but end up being 90% gore and FPS (like Bioshock for example).

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by benbeltran »

eclipxe wrote: post #160
nightski wrote: post #156

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No your logic is just incorrect. This is simple propositional logic. If P -> Q does not imply If Q -> P. Bro gamers tend to like games like Madden & CoD. Because you like Madden & CoD does not make you a bro gamer.

What is the defining characteristic of a "bro gamer" then?

It's bros... that are gamers.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by sixbrx »

zurn wrote: post #162
cobrausn wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

'bro gamer' is just a term used by some gamers to feel superior to the CoD demographic (which is everybody ). It seems to me to be a kind of signaling used to mark themselves out as 'serious' gamers who think about 'serious' issues while they blow stuff up and shoot zombies.

It's not a a stretch to call FPS games low brow. I don't play FPS games, but I know smart and sensitive people who do. They don't pretend it's not a badly justified gorefest though, just like smart people who listen to Manowar don't. A lot of people are very let down by games that get reviews just gushing over the plot and the atmosphere and puzzles but end up being 90% gore and FPS (like Bioshock for example).

But the referent of the "bro gamer" slight is not the game as you seem to be arguing, but the gamer.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Post by cobrausn »

estel wrote: post #157
cobrausn wrote: post #128

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E3 is in three weeks. They didn't want this event to focus on games, because then they'd have nothing to show at E3. But they still showed some games just to prove it had working hardware.

But the focus for the respective presentations could be be said to be reflective of each company's priorities for their new machine?

Agreed. I don't think Microsoft has to focus on the 'game' aspect of the new Xbox - the people making games for it will do that, and we know the hardware is sufficient for the next console iteration. They are focusing on the rest of the experience, which is completely under their control. I think it's a smart play and the standard gaming media is missing the point really hard.
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