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Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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post #144

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"what is usually called the 'bro gamer' demographic"? Just because I like Madden, I'm a "bro gamer" now? Get over yourself.

Well, if you only like Madden, you probably are. It's like if you collected art, but only art with football players in it.

You sir or madam have just given me my next startup idea.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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"what is usually called the 'bro gamer' demographic"? Just because I like Madden, I'm a "bro gamer" now? Get over yourself.

Chill out dude. I didn't say you were a bro gamer, I didn't say I agreed with the term. I tried to answer Caskain's question on "how did they alienate gamers", and yes, part of it is the sentiment of catering to bro gamers. But notice the usage of quotes. Follow your own advice.

Okay "hipster gamer". Notice the usage of quotes.

The point you're making is essentially that people that might enjoy popular franchises or particular genres of games aren't "real gamers" but a lower, subclass of gamers.

The point I'm making is that just because someone enjoys playing Madden (or football) does not mean that they don't also enjoy smaller, independent games ('yeah, most people have never heard of it'). We can be "gamers" too you know...

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, if you only like Madden, you probably are. It's like if you collected art, but only art with football players in it.

You sir or madam have just given me my next startup idea.

http://www.americanfineartgallery.com/artists/Leroy_Neiman/s...

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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It is not really a given at all. What matters are the games, not the technology behind the console. Showing off a new COD and Madden is pretty sigh worthy at best. My limited circle of friends who game have moved back to PC gaming and given up on consoles. We all own them, but they became glorified Netflix boxes. That was until MS decided to charge $59.99 a year for Xbox Live. Then we all bought Roku devices instead.

MS has always required you to have Xbox Live Gold to access Netflix, no? I only first got Netflix when it came to Canada, so maybe they changed it by then.

You are probably right, but I could of sworn there was a period where Netflix did not require a Gold subscription. Maybe I just had a Gold subscription at the time for playing games online and did not think twice about it...

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Chill out dude. I didn't say you were a bro gamer, I didn't say I agreed with the term. I tried to answer Caskain's question on "how did they alienate gamers", and yes, part of it is the sentiment of catering to bro gamers. But notice the usage of quotes. Follow your own advice.

Okay "hipster gamer". Notice the usage of quotes. The point you're making is essentially that people that might enjoy popular franchises or particular genres of games aren't "real gamers" but a lower, subclass of gamers. The point I'm making is that just because someone enjoys playing Madden (or football) does not mean that they don't also enjoy smaller, independent games ('yeah, most people have never heard of it').…

No your logic is just incorrect. This is simple propositional logic. If P -> Q does not imply If Q -> P. Bro gamers tend to like games like Madden & CoD. Because you like Madden & CoD does not make you a bro gamer.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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The event's games presentations were oriented to what is usually called the "Bro gamer" demographic (e.g. Madden/FIFA/CoD) ... It focused on TV, for which many of the core gamers don't care. Contrast this to the PS4 announcement, which had many developers and a lot of talk about how the platform is going to be more "open" for the small guys, and it felt really passionate about the "for-gamers" features. As a gamer, I…

E3 is in three weeks. They didn't want this event to focus on games, because then they'd have nothing to show at E3. But they still showed some games just to prove it had working hardware.

But the focus for the respective presentations could be be said to be reflective of each company's priorities for their new machine?

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Most people I know who own a PS3 consider it essentially a blu-ray player. Most people I know who own an Xbox consider it essentially a Netflix player. These people bought games, but they don't really play them. I've got naught but my anecdata, but I think attempting to bill this new console as an entertainment system that happens to also play some great games is a very, very good idea.

Agreed- I will be very tempted to buy one if it handles live TV well. Right now I have a PC sat under my TV running Windows Media Center and it's awkward and showing it's age. I might buy a game too, who knows. Alternately, I'd love to be able to put Linux on that box and make it a MythTV box. Sadly, my cable provider locks all their channels. For better or worse, MS are one of the few that could create a set top box…

you still need to plug a (supported) cable box with hdmi output into the xb1.

my bet is they are going to make use of [1] HDMI-CEC.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#CEC

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Okay "hipster gamer". Notice the usage of quotes. The point you're making is essentially that people that might enjoy popular franchises or particular genres of games aren't "real gamers" but a lower, subclass of gamers. The point I'm making is that just because someone enjoys playing Madden (or football) does not mean that they don't also enjoy smaller, independent games ('yeah, most people have never heard of it').…

No your logic is just incorrect. This is simple propositional logic. If P -> Q does not imply If Q -> P. Bro gamers tend to like games like Madden & CoD. Because you like Madden & CoD does not make you a bro gamer.

What is the defining characteristic of a "bro gamer" then?
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