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Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by miloshadzic »

tvon wrote: post #43
jug6ernaut wrote: post #38

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I really could not disagree with you more. At any given time i have 3-4 iTerm2 windows open to which if someone closed i would freak and slap them silly. But just because i use the terminal does not mean i don't want a competent file browser. Im not against there dumbed down version, but Finder as it stands simply isnt practical for a developer, and no i don't want to jump into a terminal to do basic tasks that devel…

FWIW, if you use 'screen' (or 'tmux') you won't have to worry about losing terminal windows.

SLAP

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by miloshadzic »

larrik wrote: post #51
jug6ernaut wrote: post #38

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I really could not disagree with you more. At any given time i have 3-4 iTerm2 windows open to which if someone closed i would freak and slap them silly. But just because i use the terminal does not mean i don't want a competent file browser. Im not against there dumbed down version, but Finder as it stands simply isnt practical for a developer, and no i don't want to jump into a terminal to do basic tasks that devel…

Plus, iTerm isn't even Terminal, and Terminal is pretty embarrassing.

I just switched to Terminal from iTerm2.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by kayoone »

revscat wrote: post #54
meaty wrote: post #19

Perhaps I'm strange. I always seem to be going the opposite way to everyone else. I've fallen in love with Windows again. It just works. Power management rocks, battery life is good (8 hours on my 2007 Lenovo T61!), the hardware is damn cheap, the licenses cost me virtually nothing, literally everything I plug into it works, the tooling is pretty damn good, utils I wrote for Windows NT4 literally 14 years ago still j…

> I've fallen in love with Windows again. It just works. You and I have had vastly different experiences. I have spent the morning trying to get Rails installed on a Win7 box. This has required numerous painful hoops to jump through, and I am actually not even finished. I finally got 1.9.3 installed, but am hung on some OpenSSL requirement. It has been a massive, huge waste of my day. The default command shell sucks…

why do you do this ? Windows is my desktop enviroment where i run my tools, but all my webdev lives on virtual machines that run Ubuntu. So much easier.. even on OSX i do it this way, and it works beautifully and my desktop OS doesnt matter at all.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

meaty wrote: post #141
stephenhuey wrote: post #117

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Exactly. Ever since I got one of those lil' white Macbooks in 2006 I've been so happy to be able to simply search for files with Spotlight and find them instantly, something Windows had never given me the ability to do.

Start, type, search results. Its had that since vista!

It never worked well for me, but I kill my search indexer process a lot because it turns my fan on.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by micampe »

martinced wrote: post #156

(Note that I fully expect Mac OS X and Windows fanbois to vote this down for stating unconvenient facts) That developer has always been very controversial in the Linux world amongst serious Linux users. He's been trying to poison Linux with mono and that was a huge lot of energy lost (I'm sure some people will still come here and defend mono and saying how great the CLR is and why C#/F# is the future, etc. But sadly…

You didn't answer my question here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5246603

Also, OS X can run multiple sessions, install a browser with no root access and Java is not installed by default.

But I see you are one of those users that drop their misguided wisdom and ignore all the replies, so I won't expect you to reply here either and keep believing your false facts.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by revscat »

meaty wrote: post #141
stephenhuey wrote: post #117

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Exactly. Ever since I got one of those lil' white Macbooks in 2006 I've been so happy to be able to simply search for files with Spotlight and find them instantly, something Windows had never given me the ability to do.

Start, type, search results. Its had that since vista!

It's not nearly as fast, by at least an order of magnitude. Also, because there is no centralized location for apps to be stored (e.g. /Applications) it has a harder time succeeding as an app launcher.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by coldtea »

tolmasky wrote: post #151
coldtea wrote: post #138

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> This is needless (and incorrect) semantics. Incorrect in what parallel universe? > An OS is just a collection of applications (perhaps the distinction you were trying to make was the kernel or "base OS"). Yes. OS X is just a collection of applications of which iPhoto is NOT one. IIRC, they don't even bundle iLife anymore (you're supposed to get it from the App Store) but that's beside the point. > As far as the end…

* >Incorrect in what parallel universe? >Yes. OS X is just a collection of applications of which iPhoto is NOT one. IIRC, they don't even bundle iLife anymore (you're supposed to get it from the App Store) but that's beside the point.* iPhoto IS one. As I distinctly explained in my previous post, iPhoto comes installed on every every single Mac that Apple sells with the sole exception of the server configuration of t…

>For better or worse, iPhoto is a part of the Mac experience.

Sure, it's a non-part-of-the-core-OS, bundled for free, easily replaceable, with 10s of alternatives, peripheral to using a Mac, part of the Mac experience.

To return to our duck-ing topic, what does that have to do with OS X being bad or "not just working"?

If you had to bring up a bundled, non-essential, app to make your point of OS X not working well, then one has to conclude it works mighty fine overall.

And it's even worse than that: you haven't actually even made any point against iPhoto. Just that you don't like it's filesystem abstraction. Which is neither here, not there.

Re: How I ended up with Mac

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Post by meaty »

revscat wrote: post #166
meaty wrote: post #141

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Start, type, search results. Its had that since vista!

It's not nearly as fast, by at least an order of magnitude. Also, because there is no centralized location for apps to be stored (e.g. /Applications) it has a harder time succeeding as an app launcher.

I can't tell the difference in speed between a 2007 Lenovo T61 and a 2010 MBP.

Works fine for apps. Windows 8 actually makes distinction between documents, apps and settings.

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