I was always a windows developer. In my internship I was forced to use an Macbook pro and simply hate it.
I was doing an TCP stack for blackberry and working with serial/Bluetooth communication for testing was a pain, in the end I just installed Windows on parallels.
I really don't understand this cult of Mac. I really think that is a way to be "cool" and follow and wear the "nice start-up guys" mask.
How I ended up with Mac
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Re: How I ended up with Mac
#42Perhaps I'm strange. I always seem to be going the opposite way to everyone else. I've fallen in love with Windows again. It just works. Power management rocks, battery life is good (8 hours on my 2007 Lenovo T61!), the hardware is damn cheap, the licenses cost me virtually nothing, literally everything I plug into it works, the tooling is pretty damn good, utils I wrote for Windows NT4 literally 14 years ago still j…
"(no who moved my cheese)"
Try migrating from Windows 7 to Windows 8. Whole wheels of cheese are moved around and the flavor has changed... :)
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
The people who are limited by Finder use Terminal... The people who can't use Terminal don't need more than Finder. Apple is great at hitting sweet-spots that way.
I really could not disagree with you more. At any given time i have 3-4 iTerm2 windows open to which if someone closed i would freak and slap them silly. But just because i use the terminal does not mean i don't want a competent file browser. Im not against there dumbed down version, but Finder as it stands simply isnt practical for a developer, and no i don't want to jump into a terminal to do basic tasks that devel…
FWIW, if you use 'screen' (or 'tmux') you won't have to worry about losing terminal windows.
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#44I'm always amused by these posts praising how everything just works on the Mac, and how it's so nice not having to worry about [annoying linux/windows stuff #351]. Am I really the only one blind to this effect ? I've used a mac. It's nice. But it "just works" only until you want to productively use Finder, or you want to connect to a Samba server, or you want to shuffle files with UTF-8 filenames around, or a dozen o…
The people who are limited by Finder use Terminal... The people who can't use Terminal don't need more than Finder. Apple is great at hitting sweet-spots that way.
Very true. If you are using an IDE, it already affords a great FS browser (like dired for example). If not, you're probably not a developer in which case the Finder is great!
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#45I'm always amused by these posts praising how everything just works on the Mac, and how it's so nice not having to worry about [annoying linux/windows stuff #351]. Am I really the only one blind to this effect ? I've used a mac. It's nice. But it "just works" only until you want to productively use Finder, or you want to connect to a Samba server, or you want to shuffle files with UTF-8 filenames around, or a dozen o…
> I suppose I'm just not the target market. Given that your complaints are Samba and weird file name encodings? Yes, I think your assessment is true. (HFS supports UTF-8 file names, so I'm guessing you're doing something weird with file systems that treat filenames as 8-bit ASCII supersets and hope for the best).
From what I could understand when this bit me, OSX uses a different normalization form from what Linux uses (I'm not even sure of what that means, but hey). OSX uses NFD, while pretty much everyone else uses NFC (by default).
So, if you use scp (Finder and the UI seem to convert things on-the-fly) to move files with UTF-8 filenames (mine where of korean origin), you'll end up puzzled because you're supposed to have some UTF-8 on both sides, but it's not the same UTF-8.
I don't disagree that it might be a corner case that doesn't concern a lot of people, but it's not like I was doing black magic.
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#46I just want to add, that once you want packages and such, for a tool chain, you'll at least discover some problems, as there is a package anarchy out there compared to GNU/Linux! But http://macports.org has a solid repository of packages. When it comes to "private packages" packages I have found outside repos, I do install them as "account installs", that is ~/opt/bin, ~/opt/man/man1 .. and so on, so it is easier to…
> But http://macports.org has a solid repository of packages. The problem comes when you start wanting to use things that aren't on Macports, and are only on homebrew (or maybe fink). But homebrew won't work with macports! So either you have to install one package or the other manually, or you have to install both macports and homebrew, which means that not only are you dealing with an unsupported setup, but you're a…
I use the same solution as Miguel. Linux under VirtualBox. So in fact every Mac I've ever owned has also been a Linux machine too. In fact, sometimes several Linux machines!
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#47I just want to add, that once you want packages and such, for a tool chain, you'll at least discover some problems, as there is a package anarchy out there compared to GNU/Linux! But http://macports.org has a solid repository of packages. When it comes to "private packages" packages I have found outside repos, I do install them as "account installs", that is ~/opt/bin, ~/opt/man/man1 .. and so on, so it is easier to…
> But http://macports.org has a solid repository of packages. The problem comes when you start wanting to use things that aren't on Macports, and are only on homebrew (or maybe fink). But homebrew won't work with macports! So either you have to install one package or the other manually, or you have to install both macports and homebrew, which means that not only are you dealing with an unsupported setup, but you're a…
It's not that hard, really.
You install libraries and console stuff from homebrew, gui applications from app store and forget about macports.
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#48Perhaps I'm strange. I always seem to be going the opposite way to everyone else. I've fallen in love with Windows again. It just works. Power management rocks, battery life is good (8 hours on my 2007 Lenovo T61!), the hardware is damn cheap, the licenses cost me virtually nothing, literally everything I plug into it works, the tooling is pretty damn good, utils I wrote for Windows NT4 literally 14 years ago still j…
> Yesterday I bought my second Windows Phone (Lumia 820). This also just works.
I call shenanigans.
> Email is the same everywhere,
...as with all mobile OSes.
> all the apps just works,
In contrast with iOS? I'm not buying it. "Apps just work" is Apple's selling point for their iDevices and that reputation wasn't just bought by their marketing department.
> plays any mp3 without complaining (my sodding iPhone never did!),
Pix or it didn't happen. What MP3s was your iPhone - with it's iPod internals - unable to play?
> Nokia Drive just works,
iCloud, Dropbox, and SkyDrive are available on iOS. Nokia Drive is better than all of those?
> maps actually work (again something my iPhone shot down),
iOS has Apple and Google native maps apps. What specifically is better about Windows maps than either of those?
> talks to exchange without problems,
...just like iOS, which licenses ActiveSync from Microsoft.
> is exactly the same as my old Windows Phone 7.8 device (no who moved my cheese),
Can't argue that.
> opens all my documents nicely, reads any pdf fine.
...just like iOS. I'll be honest: I'm having a hard time buying most of those examples as they run contrary to my own (and anecdotally, most others') experiences.
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#49Perhaps I'm strange. I always seem to be going the opposite way to everyone else. I've fallen in love with Windows again. It just works. Power management rocks, battery life is good (8 hours on my 2007 Lenovo T61!), the hardware is damn cheap, the licenses cost me virtually nothing, literally everything I plug into it works, the tooling is pretty damn good, utils I wrote for Windows NT4 literally 14 years ago still j…
"(no who moved my cheese)" Try migrating from Windows 7 to Windows 8. Whole wheels of cheese are moved around and the flavor has changed... :)
Yes I know. I've tried Windows 8 and I don't like it, but thanks to the culture of support and choice, I'm not all that bothered as Windows 7 is good and supported for another 7 years (until 2020). Something (Windows Blue?) may come along and change things by then. I'll deal with it when I get there.
I'm on a 2007 built Lenovo T61 which I can actually see lasting until 2020 as well the way it's going.
Re: How I ended up with Mac
#50So after Miguel did everything possible to fragment and screw up Linux desktops, he's now complaining about fragmented and screwed up Linux desktops. Color me surprised.
Well, and after years of his project slavishly imitating Windows, its latest iteration is slavishly imitating OS X. So, good work all around.
Edit: vvvv I stand corrected.
Double Edit: What exactly do you mean, anyway? Things like http://www.linuxtoday.com/developer/2002020601120OPGNMS, dated 2010, seem to indicate he's still active within GNOME.