«Keep the web weird and interesting.»
This made me smile and I agree.
I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned
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Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
A CV on your personal domain is the most IndieWeb thing you can do, it means your professional identity lives under your control, not LinkedIn's. The "anarchy symbol on expensive clothes" critique works when someone claims to reject the system while feeding it. IndieWeb does not claim to reject professionalism, it claims that your content should belong to you and outlive any platform. The headshot, the CV, the polish…
When i think about being indie, I think about the era when personal websites were not meant to be money business and the common sense on the internet was to adopt a pseudonym and never tell anyone where you live. Having a CV seems antithetical to the entire idea of indieness.
To me Indieweb just another name for personal website or personal blog. Since it's personal, I guess people can do anything to their website, including looking for job.
> Having a CV seems antithetical to the entire idea of indieness.
By that logic, Indie music artist can't sell their song.
Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
They realize it's "unworkable for 90% of users" and they don't care. Part of the Indieweb philosophy, like Libre software, is to "scratch your own itch" - no one's paying you. You do the stuff that's interesting to you. It's not a business. The point is not to take over the market. The planet needs fewer marketing pinheads, not more. I would like it if we passed various laws that killed off a lot of the marketing pin…
the irony is that the scratch your own itch mindset also explains why indieweb struggles to grow. there’s nothing wrong with building software for yourself. but if your stated goal is giving everyone ownership over their online identity, then usability stops being marketing and starts becoming part of the mission. good ux isn’t selling out. it’s removing accidental complexity so more people can benefit from the ideas…
Why does it need to grow? Not trying to be a curmudgeon here, I'm just trying to explain the philosophy because I think it's totally alien to some people. And I mean actually this HAS grown. Just pointing out that as far as I still know, guys like Aaron and Tantek are still doing their thing, scratching their itches, being indie, and the framework is there if anyone else wants to also scratch their personal itch.
What it isn't: a service working on perfection and maximizing consumption, as for example a commenter (Andrea Zanchetta) seems to expect. "What they built isn't suitable for me" simply isn't a relevant statement. You can build the thing you want, or have a nice day.
The point of these movements is that people are doing things for themselves, not for you, and not for the mass market. They are generally quite friendly to other people who create their own things. They are not doing it however to engage a consultant, a collective, a central authority, or pursue market share. They're just being themselves and making. Opinions that aren't backed by creating your own are just not really part of the picture and that's OK. We don't need to respond to the collective zeitgeist. We don't need to listen to all the opinions of other people online. We can just make and appreciate it as its own reward.
Occasionally these people get sponsored, and then you end up with miracles like the Linux kernel. Most times they don't and they just tinker and they're happy. It's all good.
Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned
#164I've done, and still do, regular blogging. I have a domain, and everything I post is mine. However it can't be "indieweb" because I used Wordpress. Hence my current blog is dependent on a corporation, as were a couple of older ones that were built in Blogger (and still exist, last updated nearly a decade ago). That dependency is because isn't feasible for me to own my own server. If I did, it would either be virtual,…
I have my own hosted server on some old nuc pc I got for free. You don't need an UPS or permanent uplink. A blog isn't so important that the world will end if your blog goes offline for a day. How often do you lose power or internet, is that one time a year really that big of a deal?
Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Though I don't brand my site as indie web, my own website is a bit like this - I have a link to my consulting site and a headshot on there. Why is that so bad? My professional life is a part of who I am. One could call me an IndieWorker, in that I'm self employed....
Got a link to share? (Maybe put it in your HN bio?)
lewiscampbell.tech
Good suggestion, I will :)
Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned
#166I feel like the DRY concern with RSS feeds is overstated. I can’t remember the last time I had trouble with automagically generating an RSS feed using whatever open source framework I was authoring with at the time.
But the unDRYness of RSS is pretty stark. It's literally a dupe of the list page of any website. I've often been frustrated at having to maintain two versions of the exact same content, and deal with XML, when `h-entry` exists. RSS was invented just before the semantic-markup revolution (i.e. the end of table layouts). Bad timing.
I haven't used it myself, but you could probably just use a microformat like h-feed and generate an RSS feed with the hosted version of granary: https://github.com/snarfed/granary
Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you think I'll just check manually every day to see if you wrote a new post? That for each and every blog I follow? That's like comparing old school Windows software updating where you "just have to go on the website and read the news" vs `apt update && apt upgrade`.
My assumption was that nobody checks rss feeds since the iPhone came out anymore, but apparently I’m wrong
Why since the iPhone? RSS feeds on my phone were my preferred way of reading blogs before responsive web design was a thing.