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I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by pibaker »

andros wrote: post #68
pibaker wrote: post #65

I feel some uneasiness when I go to a website branded as "indieweb," and see a link to the author's CV prominently on the page. Sometimes you also see a professional taken headshot of the author or an enthusiastic description of his work history at prestigious institutions. And it's always a professionally made blog. You know the drill. It feels like walking into a brightly lit clothing store in a fancy mall and seei…

A CV on your personal domain is the most IndieWeb thing you can do, it means your professional identity lives under your control, not LinkedIn's. The "anarchy symbol on expensive clothes" critique works when someone claims to reject the system while feeding it. IndieWeb does not claim to reject professionalism, it claims that your content should belong to you and outlive any platform. The headshot, the CV, the polish…

When i think about being indie, I think about the era when personal websites were not meant to be money business and the common sense on the internet was to adopt a pseudonym and never tell anyone where you live.

Having a CV seems antithetical to the entire idea of indieness.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by dredmorbius »

tracerbulletx wrote: post #75
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #26

If IndieWeb wants content, burying it under a ton of tech soup is the exact opposite of what they claim they want. How do the developers not realise that this set of protocols is completely unworkable for 90% of users? Please stop developing systems where the engineering is front and centre. If you want to put content UX first, you need to do exactly that, with a one-click solution that gets users up and running inst…

No. Exact opposite. Opening it up to everyone is what kills everything good, the endless september of grocery store tabloid aisles and clickbait. Gatekeepers are good, restrictions on participation are good. The internet was better when it was a self selecting place for interesting interested people and not the global walmart.

"Bad roads act as filters", Joseph Wood Krutch, 1967.

https://wist.info/krutch-joseph-wood/53557/>

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by axus »

pibaker wrote: post #81
andros wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A CV on your personal domain is the most IndieWeb thing you can do, it means your professional identity lives under your control, not LinkedIn's. The "anarchy symbol on expensive clothes" critique works when someone claims to reject the system while feeding it. IndieWeb does not claim to reject professionalism, it claims that your content should belong to you and outlive any platform. The headshot, the CV, the polish…

When i think about being indie, I think about the era when personal websites were not meant to be money business and the common sense on the internet was to adopt a pseudonym and never tell anyone where you live. Having a CV seems antithetical to the entire idea of indieness.

I think you can be both indie and self-serving.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by axus »

jryle70 wrote: post #42
inigyou wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not possible. But there are more and less neutral ones.

What does "neutral" mean? Which ones are more neutral ones? Any examples of issues with Google, or with the more neutral ones?

Ultimately controlled by a country "more neutral" than the USA. Looks like .me is not neutral.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by bluebarbet »

ronbenton wrote: post #35

I feel like the DRY concern with RSS feeds is overstated. I can’t remember the last time I had trouble with automagically generating an RSS feed using whatever open source framework I was authoring with at the time.

But the unDRYness of RSS is pretty stark. It's literally a dupe of the list page of any website. I've often been frustrated at having to maintain two versions of the exact same content, and deal with XML, when `h-entry` exists.

RSS was invented just before the semantic-markup revolution (i.e. the end of table layouts). Bad timing.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by LAC-Tech »

pibaker wrote: post #65

I feel some uneasiness when I go to a website branded as "indieweb," and see a link to the author's CV prominently on the page. Sometimes you also see a professional taken headshot of the author or an enthusiastic description of his work history at prestigious institutions. And it's always a professionally made blog. You know the drill. It feels like walking into a brightly lit clothing store in a fancy mall and seei…

Though I don't brand my site as indie web, my own website is a bit like this - I have a link to my consulting site and a headshot on there.

Why is that so bad? My professional life is a part of who I am. One could call me an IndieWorker, in that I'm self employed....

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by nicbou »

pibaker wrote: post #65

I feel some uneasiness when I go to a website branded as "indieweb," and see a link to the author's CV prominently on the page. Sometimes you also see a professional taken headshot of the author or an enthusiastic description of his work history at prestigious institutions. And it's always a professionally made blog. You know the drill. It feels like walking into a brightly lit clothing store in a fancy mall and seei…

I see more simple blogs about the joys of having a blog. It’s still much better than the cottage industry around growth hacking your Substack.

A personal website is whatever you want it to be. Mine is getting more personal with every passing year because I don’t need a job. I want to geek out about stuff. However people’s websites are a product of the society they live in. Them bills gotta get paid.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Post by novemp »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #26

If IndieWeb wants content, burying it under a ton of tech soup is the exact opposite of what they claim they want. How do the developers not realise that this set of protocols is completely unworkable for 90% of users? Please stop developing systems where the engineering is front and centre. If you want to put content UX first, you need to do exactly that, with a one-click solution that gets users up and running inst…

People who aren't willing to put any effort into learning how computers and the internet work are free to stay on Xitter and Facebook. Not everything has to be for everyone.
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