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Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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Re: Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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I suppose it’s in how you word it. I’ve given up on trying to get a job because there is no point in trying. I can’t afford to pay my rent, but I guess you could call that early retirement.

Point of labor participation is that it's independent of whether you want to be employed or not.

That sounds kinda pointless unless the point of the stats is to make the State and Enterprise look good and justify cuts to non-corporate WELFARE

Re: Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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post #144

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There are plenty of services to send mail form the internet for a small fee, so this will only discourage the most poor candidates and add friction for the best ones.

The "small fee" is the point though as it stops practically all automated submissions. I doubt the price of a stamp excludes poor candidates unless you think that poor people could never get jobs before online applications were a thing (and internet connections and phones cost money as well).

It’s not that poor people can’t afford a stamp it’s that they aren’t going to spend money on an automated service or stamp if there are other places to apply to that don’t require this.

So I think it’s going to lower recall a a lot - it reduces volume of good and bad actors equally. Anecdotally, I’m not going to bother with such an application unless it’s my top choice or I’m desperate. For small companies that probably means throwing the babies out with the bathwater.

Re: Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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post #75

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I did retire somewhat early but also somewhat involuntarily and only after a somewhat fruitless search.

I consider myself to have retired at age 41 in hindsight, because a job never materialized and I also found that apparently I didn’t really need one.

Its so important to know your outcome (in financial terms)

Re: Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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post #76

Take an hour off at 2-3pm in any major US city and look at how many people are just milling about. Mostly shopping. There are a lot of people in the US that are not working. Pre-2008 retail was quiet in the middle of the day, now it booms. I can’t comment on if this is a good or bad thing, but I am surprised at how many people are causally walking their dog as I am rushing to compete an essential errand and get back…

You realize not everyone works a normal 9 to 5 right, you honestly think every person shopping are unemployed? Are tech workers this deeply out of touch with normal people?

(Health)care work is mostly shift work, and as society ages more and more people are going to be working in that sector.

Also if you live in a tourist destination like a major city there's going to be lots of people with time off walking around everywhere.

Re: Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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post #121

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I don't think they implied that. They just noticed what they say is a large increase in 9 to 5 shopping compared to pre-2008 and are speculating that this increase is because more people now are out of the labor force.

This is literally what they implied tho, let's not beat around the bush here. They are disgustingly antihuman. Why are we shocked that tech workers also share deeply antihuman views like those of their masters?

It's not even limited to tech workers. Propaganda runs deep.

Re: Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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Point of labor participation is that it's independent of whether you want to be employed or not.

That sounds kinda pointless unless the point of the stats is to make the State and Enterprise look good and justify cuts to non-corporate WELFARE

Ding ding ding!

Re: Job seekers giving up: Labor force participation falls to lowest in 50 years

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post #143

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I suppose it’s in how you word it. I’ve given up on trying to get a job because there is no point in trying. I can’t afford to pay my rent, but I guess you could call that early retirement.

You can’t pay your rent? But then where will you live?

A question that roughly 500,000 people in America find themselves asking. So far, the answer seems to be “in a pup tent in the woods behind Walmart”, because there’s not a ton of great options otherwise.
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