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The Vespa at 80

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Re: The Vespa at 80

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I like Vespas, they're very stylish, but damn they are noisy, and not a nice rumble either but more like a very loud chainsaw. They give off a terrible amount of smoke compared more modern scooters too. I do often wonder why so few other new small motorcycles or scooters have similarly beautiful designs though. However, for me, having lived in a country with a motorbike culture for the last decade, the coolest thing…

Switched from Vespa (combustion) to Unu (electric) and Black Tea (electric) .. and the one feature I yearn for, from the Vespa era, is its noise factor. Electric is damn quiet, damn smooth, and damn fast. (And damn comfy.) And that can be a problem. Especially in a city like, say, Vienna, where people just do not check before they cross some of these little cosy streets. I became a much more alert and guarding rider…

> And that can be a problem. Especially in a city like, say, Vienna, where people just do not check before they cross some of these little cosy streets.

And not just that: Street's full of smombies, already keeping in mind that the situation awareness of the average pedestrian is a joke to begin with.

Also... mopeds and scooters are not a problem here in big-city Europe, they blend virtually completely into the vehicle hum, with two notable outliers: a) asshole mods, and b) the odd classic, two-stroke sewing machine. But even then, there's many other vehicles much louder than scooters. In the countryside they might be more of burden, for obvious reasons.

Re: The Vespa at 80

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Grew up in India riding my Vespa (LML Vespa). A 150cc scooter. It was very old technology I guess but I never had problems with it. The new Vespa looks very cool and seems to have much better balance. It makes me very happy to see Vespa now on the roads at times where I live. I always think, someday I will buy one.

Re: The Vespa at 80

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Vespas are fashionable and cute but the coolest thing on 2 wheels award goes to Simsons of all colors and stripes (2-stroke or electric, pick your poison). In Germany, the grandfathered 2-strokes are also the only way you can legally ride somethibg faster than 45 km/h on a moped license.

This sort of thing? The bars look like an 80s bmx. https://cdn.pixabay.com/photo/2021/12/27/23/50/motorcycle-68...

Yes that's a Simson, one of several models

Re: The Vespa at 80

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Or honk. Does your Vespa have a honk? In Vietnam, we honk our bikes to alert others especially around a curve. Foreign visitors complain about all the honking, and they are indeed annoying sometimes, but there is a reason why people do it.

My Unu/Black Tea (no Vespa) do have honks, but they’re quite whimpy, and the Viennese will scream extra bloody murder at you for honks as well, especially if they’re the ones standing foolishly in the middle of the road with their mobile phone plastered to their faces, and you’ve just added a new black line in the road, braking not to hit them .. I keep thinking I should upgrade my honk to make it beefier (although h…

You should join our unu Community Discord, we have someone who upgraded to what is basically two fog horns at ungodly decibel levels ... but we can also reactivate the builtin speaker and add the spaceship noise maybe?

Re: The Vespa at 80

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Vespas are fashionable and cute but the coolest thing on 2 wheels award goes to Simsons of all colors and stripes (2-stroke or electric, pick your poison). In Germany, the grandfathered 2-strokes are also the only way you can legally ride somethibg faster than 45 km/h on a moped license.

Second Ride is offering electric conversion kits giving you the best of both worlds: electric scooter, going 60km/h...

Re: The Vespa at 80

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What noise pollution do you hear from electric? You mean the noise cars make when they are backing up or what?

I mean the three: -- the additional alarms you mention; -- the noise from the engine (according to the assessment of mates, it should be that): it whines; -- the additional noise made to increase their "presence" which is typically an unnatural synth chord. All of that is absolutely unbearable to us.

There is literally any noise from the engine, whine or otherwise. Whether a noise is bad or not can be subjective but silence is objective.

So at least for that one it kind of draws into question your overall conclusions here. You might be hearing an ICE and thinking it is electric, or some specific badly tuned vehicle or something.

Re: The Vespa at 80

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I'm surprised the small diameter wheels allow for such a good ride.

You're thinking about the stability? That's all down to very low center of gravity.

No, I'm referring to how a smaller diameter wheel can't roll over bumps as easily as a larger one.
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