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Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Wouldn't want the government to have your government-issued ID. I have no idea about Persona though.

I know that this may sound surprising, but US is not the only country in the world ;)

There are dozens of us!

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Funny how no-one talks about AI neutrality like we used to discuss net neutrality. We literally now enter a space where not only you will have to prove your identity with a gov issued ID, but they will silently block you if they deem you try to use it in a way that they don't like. It is literally similar to a situation where your ISP would investigate all sites you visit and limit your bandwidth if they don't like t…

THe reason why its not being talked about like net neutrality is because there aren't large companies with a vested interested interest in changing the status quo

Net neutrality was about Google/netflix/etc not wanting to pay for transit to verizon/AT&T/etc

Same with the copyright reforms, new, richer internet companies (at the time) wanted to avoid paying feesto copyright owners.

The morality of these campaigns are out of scope, the point is, ID checks align with the new money.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

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Out of pure curiosity, which UK bank was it?

Wise, previously TransferWise.

To be clear, Wise (previously "Transfer Wise", symbol `WISE` on the LSE) is not a bank. Wise is a Money Services Business in the US; in the UK, they are an Electronic Money (e-money) Institution. When they are holding your money, they use the services of one or more actual banks.

So, I'd be careful calling Wise a "UK bank", as that gives the wrong impression.

More info about how Wise UK works: https://wise.com/help/articles/4IusAofIppsIGPcs7sEIXI/how-ou...

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#166

OpenAI also has this kind of check. What is especially bad is that if you fail the verification process, they won’t let you retry – you are permanently locked out from the top models. They aren’t clear about this upfront during the process, so make sure the lighting is good when you scan your ID! https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10910291-api-organizatio...

That's almost certainly just bad engineering/bad business. Not to say it wasn't an active choice, I'm sure it was. It just shows how extreme the power imbalance is between end users and big business that they have 0 desire to do things correctly and end users have 0 impact on correcting that thinking.

OpenAI has notoriously terrible engineering. Look no further than the numerous Reddit threads and YouTube videos about people trying to give them money for their services and being denied. Users routinely have to try a number of credit cards, a number of web browsers, a number of devices, and a number of physical locations.

I’m not talking about sketchy prepaid cards from weird banks on a VPN in a country the United States doesn’t do business with. I’m talking about Americans getting their Chase cards rejected on their home wifi in Ithaca.

When this initially happened to me, I assumed it was a one off thing, but I was shocked to have found out that it’s been going on for at least six months, probably longer.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#168
post #144

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Reddit is the only platform that actually tells you that you are shadowbanned, so at least they are upfront about it, but their appeal system sucks. My friend just appealed every day for just over 600 days and finally got their account un-shadowbanned.

Isn’t that definitionally impossible? If they tell you about it then it’s not a shadow ban.

I guess it depends on the definition of shadow ban.

In Reddit's case it means you can continue to post and comment, it's just that your posts and comments are no longer seen by others.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#169
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Its a very well known fact that all of our geopolitical adversaries have sophisticated fake American ID markets. This doesn't stop any of the most dangerous adversaries from getting access to systems protected by this technology. DeepSeek is going to go buy 20,000 fake IDs for their fake distillation accounts and keep on keeping on. This just hurts normal people, Americans and non-Americans, who might struggle to aut…

Thank you. This is an expansion of surveillance. Most concerning to me is how few people understand government's access to this data. People treat AI like a diary, and the government can request that data at anytime.

Indeed - Persona is backed by Founders Fund - also linked to lovely companies like Palantir, Flock & Anduril. Some people still (claim they) can’t see the massive dragnet swirling around all of society right now.

Re: Identity verification on Claude

#170
ID verification might be a path to allow restricted access to Fable (doesn't mention nationality yet), but I concluded I don't need Fable, which excels more at technical work, because I do therapy/recovery/lifecoach work which Opus is good at. I'm retired and need personal "executive function" type assistance.
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