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Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by shanoaice »

NitpickLawyer wrote: post #19

Since the 3rd party providers on openrouter have all converged on much higher prices in serving these models (both mimo and dsv4), there's obviously a question on how/why are they lowering the prices so much. It's possible they've finally integrated cheap(er) chinese chips. It's also possible they're just subsidising inference for real-world usage data. Interesting either way.

Electricity in China are much, much cheaper than in U.S.

Also, DSv4 has access to Huawei Ascend GPUs that have native FP4 that allows all-native FP4+FP8 mixed compute that is more efficient than emulated FP4. Less so for 3rd party providers.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by shanoaice »

ericmay wrote: post #159
culi wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OpenAI and Anthropic restricted API access for developers based in mainland China, citing geopolitical competition and national security risks.

Yes but does China also restrict Chinese citizens from using these models?

Kinda, China has the GFW so you need to circument that to access a larger part of global internet. Though that is relatively "easy" than to get a proper working SMS or KYC for Anthropic or OAI.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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dubcanada wrote: post #32
prodigycorp wrote: post #27

How realistic is this: Chinese models incidentally slurps up some terms that lead them to finding unflattering words that you wrote about the CCP in a random journal entry, or maybe a social media csv export. You go to China one day and are denied entry due to what you said. Realistic or no? (yes i know the us is getting bad in re. to what you write online as well) Models hosted in China are a siren call that I don't…

This statement makes no sense, because you literally said the "US is getting bad". We already gave up all of our data, if you wrote something about the CCP you should already expect they know about it.

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Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by _davide_ »

shanoaice wrote: post #160
_davide_ wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had a subscription before the price was cut down; the model kept randomly looping the with same character (burning 30% of the budget in one shot), and the overall performance for agentic purposes is, simply put, terrible. It finds non-existing bugs and randomly removes chunks of code to fix them, then even presents it as an "extra fix". Maybe it's a good generalistic model; I haven't tested it in that regard. MiniM…

similarly for me, MiniMax is kind of horrible that it somewhat regularly fall into loops that I had to save it from. DeepSeek & MiMO rarely got stuck. wonder how you get completely reversed experience.

I did develop my own agent around MiniMax. I did see weird behavior when I messed up the loop, like omitting pieces of remove thinking; maybe it's an agent bug, some models/providers just ignore/normalize the broken input, some don't.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by ignoramous »

_davide_ wrote: post #164
shanoaice wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

similarly for me, MiniMax is kind of horrible that it somewhat regularly fall into loops that I had to save it from. DeepSeek & MiMO rarely got stuck. wonder how you get completely reversed experience.

I did develop my own agent around MiniMax. I did see weird behavior when I messed up the loop, like omitting pieces of remove thinking; maybe it's an agent bug, some models/providers just ignore/normalize the broken input, some don't.

Seems like the harness may have to be "finetuned" for models. I've had my share of MiMo 2.5 Pro get stuck in thinking loops with GitHub Copilot.
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