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Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Yeah I agree with that nuance, as I personally enjoy making AI covers of songs I like in genres that I can't produce myself (old vintage blues covers of 80s new wave songs if you must know). It's a fair amount of work prompting and curating (and editing in some cases). I think they are cool and have shared a few, but they do tend to get lumped in with "ai slop" and some people take offense.

The difference between this and what we are seeing in this article is you aren't sitting down, grinding out dozens/hundreds of these, then spamming them with little to no regard for anyone else for profit. You do it at small scale, for yourself/friends, and clearly care about the results . You are trying to make something intentionally.

Yes, exactly a good way to put it.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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I've been working hard at this over at SubmitHub, developing a way to detect AI songs: https://www.submithub.com/ai-song-checker These days roughly 20% of the songs coming through our platform for promotion are AI-generated. Roughly 75% of them are honest and declare their AI usage - but another 25% try to hide it. Some of them are actually writing scripts to "clean" their audio so that it can bypass detection.

do you have any idea on what percentage of musicians use AI to create the song and then also create the sheet music so they can play it themselves? That seems like a decent workflow, use AI to get the song right, and then record yourself playing it with you're own creative tweaks. That's kind of how I do AI assisted coding.

Sounds dystopian. If I was tasked with designing hell for musicians, I would be inspired.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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I'm trying to learn music production with a DAW, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time. Part of my reason for trying this was reading how creative endeavors can be therapeutic (I'm dealing with burnout/depression/cptsd). I'm at the stage where sometimes I make something that sounds good (to me) but I know it requires work (in the "not fun" sense) to finish it and even then, it will likely never be appreciated by…

A lot of people thought the same thing with everything going from analog -> digital. Or heck, even learning an instrument when MIDI was first introduced. Even before generative AI, there is a long-going debate in audio circles around simulated guitar amplifiers. The truth is, the simulations of them have gotten so insanely good that now one could simply purchase an all-in-one pedalboard and have basically all of guit…

>> one could simply purchase an all-in-one pedalboard and have basically all of guitar history at your toes

And this is actually a problem. Great art usually comes from constraints, real or artificial. These things are a lot of fun to tinker with (a really fun hobby) but one amp, one guitar, and a small number of effects pedals will probably lead to you actually make more and better stuff.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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Step 1: ditch the DAW and learn a real instrument Step 2: find a local jam group or community band/orchestra Step 3: have fun playing music with friends

Multiple problems with this one. For one, acquiring an instrument is expensive - even secondhand, most instruments cost a significant amount of money. Learning it properly is even more important and expensive - fixing something in a DAW is easy, unlearning muscle memory is much harder. Keeping up said muscle memory also isn't easy. Sure, if you got a free-standing house, no one will care much about a drum set, trumpe…

> For one, acquiring an instrument is expensive - even secondhand

Depends on the instrument. You can get a completely new Harley Benton electric guitar for sub-$200.

> Sure, if you got a free-standing house

Sure, trumpets and classical instruments are a challenge, but all the guitars and all the keys can be practiced on headphones with near-zero noise. It's not an excuse.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1: ditch the DAW and learn a real instrument Step 2: find a local jam group or community band/orchestra Step 3: have fun playing music with friends

Multiple problems with this one. For one, acquiring an instrument is expensive - even secondhand, most instruments cost a significant amount of money. Learning it properly is even more important and expensive - fixing something in a DAW is easy, unlearning muscle memory is much harder. Keeping up said muscle memory also isn't easy. Sure, if you got a free-standing house, no one will care much about a drum set, trumpe…

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Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1: ditch the DAW and learn a real instrument Step 2: find a local jam group or community band/orchestra Step 3: have fun playing music with friends

Multiple problems with this one. For one, acquiring an instrument is expensive - even secondhand, most instruments cost a significant amount of money. Learning it properly is even more important and expensive - fixing something in a DAW is easy, unlearning muscle memory is much harder. Keeping up said muscle memory also isn't easy. Sure, if you got a free-standing house, no one will care much about a drum set, trumpe…

Go check out a drum circle, all you need is a bucket. Learn to sing, join a choir. It’s not that hard if you quit making excuses. I’ve lived in small towns in rural areas for most of my life and there have been multiple community music groups in all of them.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Step 1: ditch the DAW and learn a real instrument Step 2: find a local jam group or community band/orchestra Step 3: have fun playing music with friends

Multiple problems with this one. For one, acquiring an instrument is expensive - even secondhand, most instruments cost a significant amount of money. Learning it properly is even more important and expensive - fixing something in a DAW is easy, unlearning muscle memory is much harder. Keeping up said muscle memory also isn't easy. Sure, if you got a free-standing house, no one will care much about a drum set, trumpe…

>> For one, acquiring an instrument is expensive - even secondhand, most instruments cost a significant amount of money.

This isn't true at all. You can get a brand new Squier Strat for < $200 and a second hand one for less than half that. You can pick up used acoustic guitars for next to nothing if you look hard enough. You can get a used digital piano for < $200 too.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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I'm trying to learn music production with a DAW, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time. Part of my reason for trying this was reading how creative endeavors can be therapeutic (I'm dealing with burnout/depression/cptsd). I'm at the stage where sometimes I make something that sounds good (to me) but I know it requires work (in the "not fun" sense) to finish it and even then, it will likely never be appreciated by…

Just pick up your instrument and make some noise. DAWs are time sinks.

Music is about the “feel” first and foremost. Playing music on a physical instrument or singing is a feel thing.

DAWs are tools for polishing what was created with feeling into something “produced”. If that’s what you want to end up with, that’s ok. Just be clear with yourself on which you’re trying to do.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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I'm trying to learn music production with a DAW, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time. Part of my reason for trying this was reading how creative endeavors can be therapeutic (I'm dealing with burnout/depression/cptsd). I'm at the stage where sometimes I make something that sounds good (to me) but I know it requires work (in the "not fun" sense) to finish it and even then, it will likely never be appreciated by…

I just recently setup a very simple home recording studio after picking up drums again at 40. I had the same thoughts, but I'm going it for me and it is extremely therapeutic. Plus, given the genre (extreme metal), I've gotten into much better shape. (Also picked up an 8 string guitar. I never grew out of my edgelordiness. No real point to mentioning this but just wanted to tell someone :)

AI music may eventually satisfy the masses and you can't stop that speeding train, but the process of creating something yourself will always have value if it's something you're interested in creating.

Re: Deezer says 44% of songs uploaded to its platform daily are AI-generated

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I'm trying to learn music production with a DAW, sometimes I wonder if I'm wasting my time. Part of my reason for trying this was reading how creative endeavors can be therapeutic (I'm dealing with burnout/depression/cptsd). I'm at the stage where sometimes I make something that sounds good (to me) but I know it requires work (in the "not fun" sense) to finish it and even then, it will likely never be appreciated by…

"it will likely never be appreciated by anyone but myself."

AI is forcing art to return to having no meaning or purpose beyond itself and thats a good thing. It's how things used to be

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