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Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by rolph »

gerdesj wrote: post #153
rolph wrote: post #123

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interesting, so when a fellow is taken up by the cops, and he says "thers no punt, im telling you truth", is that unfamiliar? i have a lot of different nationalities partaking of my wilderness lodge, and a lot of the younger english ones use punt/play/burn/scam as equivalent. i can see how they could merge, considering a colloquial "punt" [rugby/footall] as a maneuver with adverse risk.

"interesting, so when a fellow is taken up by the cops, and he says "thers no punt, im telling you truth", is that unfamiliar?" Yes it is unfamiliar - it is unlikely that anyone in the UK has accidentally said that. "i have a lot of different nationalities partaking of my wilderness lodge, and a lot of the younger english ones use punt/play/burn/scam as equivalent." Given you have a dislike of capitals, I'll hazard a…

im organic, and im older than dirt.

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Post by scrame »

rigonkulous wrote: post #50

I am an active and enthusiastic recordist and have decades of stuff I've accumulated over the years. One of the concerts I captured in the 90's, lives on as a bootleg which I often see around the scene of this one particularly great live electronic dance band, whose punters have created true value out of the hour and a half of live concert input I managed to record, standing right there front stage and center, with t…

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

gib444 wrote: post #113
rolph wrote: post #103

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also common UK slang, for someone who constantly does things in the grey. to wit: scammer, scheister, player.

That's incorrect. In British slang it means a customer/patron. In this context a fan/concertgoer (Source: I'm British)

I've only heard it in a gambling context which is why I was confused. I was briefly on a UK gambling platform and they referred to themselves as punters.

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Post by HappMacDonald »

charcircuit wrote: post #67
HappMacDonald wrote: post #51

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Etree is missing self-seed then. What if IA hosted torrents like Etree does but also self-seeded the content? Thus they are encouraging amateur third parties to pick up some of the archival slack, that style of torrent could outlive IA in case anything happened to them, and it reduces some of their bandwidth costs

IA always does that. Every download page also links to a torrent. Is that not the same as what you want?

"Are you not entertained!?"

No, but that sounds good. :D

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by TurdF3rguson »

switz wrote: post #156
wahern wrote: post #142

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It's still technically illegal. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's a tacit Don't Ask, Don't Tell understanding in the community between artists and recorders. Even when individual recorders are known by the community and artists, keeping the pretense of anonymity might be important to preserving and protecting the scene.

It's really up to the artists. Many are surprisingly cool with it, though there are a few notable exceptions (i.e. Prince). Sounds like the artist in this particlar case gave their blessing. Many bands (like GD and Phish) specifically note in their rider that venues must allow and provide space for tapers to bring their rigs in. A sibling comment in this thread pointed out my project Relisten[0], which now has over 4…

> though there are a few notable exceptions (i.e. Prince)

There was an episode of "What's Happening" when Rerun gets in trouble for bootlegging a Doobie Brothers concert, does anyone remember? It aired when I was a kid and now I somehow still feel guilty when I listen to bootlegs.

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Post by samplatt »

tyrust wrote: post #75
rigonkulous wrote: post #50

I am an active and enthusiastic recordist and have decades of stuff I've accumulated over the years. One of the concerts I captured in the 90's, lives on as a bootleg which I often see around the scene of this one particularly great live electronic dance band, whose punters have created true value out of the hour and a half of live concert input I managed to record, standing right there front stage and center, with t…

Great story, but how are you going to say all that but not link to the recording?

Based on the story there's a good chance it'll be one of these recordings: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead

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Post by __mharrison__ »

samplatt wrote: post #167
tyrust wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great story, but how are you going to say all that but not link to the recording?

Based on the story there's a good chance it'll be one of these recordings: https://relisten.net/grateful-dead

Probably not because GD is not electric music. Also, there is/was a big taper scene there. This sounds like there was no recording going on.

Re: Rare concert recordings are landing on the Internet Archive

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Post by roskelld »

alsetmusic wrote: post #115
roskelld wrote: post #76

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Are you certain Faith No More did the cover? There's certainly a Mr. Bungle version [0] from a San Francisco gig in 1990. I remember grabbing this from the Bungle Fever FTP site back in around '99. I'd often download the bootlegs, burn them to audio CD and print out a cover of the gig poster if one was available. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTfSrUThyDk

That's exactly the one I have! No surprise that it was mislabeled. Same vocalist, so that tended to happen before broadband was widely available. I even downloaded a song (Nebula) from Incubus's SCIENCE that was misattributed to Mr Bungle. To be fair, the singer plausibly could have been said to be doing a Mike Patton imitation. Now that I think more about it, I must have got the track from a P2P service / network. B…

Glad I could help! Your post gave me a walk down memory lane. I'd forgotten all about the trips I used to do to this local music store that carried bootlegs. The Nirvana section was substantial. I remember having a number of them with the mislabeled tracks, including the one you mentioned. I also picked up a few live show recordings that were unlistenable, though luckily the store accepted returns.

I found an archive of the full set that includes the Nothing Compares 2 U track. Seems that they opened the gig with the song [0]. There's a neat story in the link about the show and how this bootleg got around.

  Mr.Bungle
  Date: 1990-05-27
  Venue: (BBurnett) @The Full Moon Saloon, San Francisco, CA
  Recorded By: Sean Lyons
  Source: Sony Stereo Clip-On Mic > Cassette Walkman > audience master cassette > Tascam 3-head Professional Cassette Deck Model 130 > Tascam DA40 > Tascam CDRW5000 > Samplitude Professional 7.11
[0] https://archive.org/details/bungle1990-05-27.sony
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