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US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated." The ten point plan which had previously been rejected outright? The 10-point plan which leaves Iran in an incredibly better finan…

What are the chances Claude was used on both sides of this negotiation?

This thread is not about Claude or LLMs.

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US just agreed to: Commitment to non-aggression Continuation of Iran’s control over the Strait of Hormuz Acceptance of uranium enrichment Lifting of all primary sanctions Lifting of all secondary sanctions Termination of all UN Security Council resolutions Termination of all Board of Governors resolutions Payment of compensation to Iran Withdrawal of U.S. combat forces from the region Cessation of war on all fronts,…

Source? Do you seriously think the US just agreed to accept Iranian nuclear enrichment?

Yes, Trump is playing this as a two week period only so they could enrich for the next two weeks.

Things have slide backwards.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Source? Do you seriously think the US just agreed to accept Iranian nuclear enrichment?

Israel, I would think, would claim that Iran getting the bomb would be existential to them, so I don't think it's reasonable to think that Israel would agree to allowing enrichment. I'm a little surprised that recognizing Israel as a nuclear power isn't in Iran's list of demands, considering how destabilizing it would be.

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Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Always look at the actions, not the talks. Reality on the ground is: US has been amassing troops in tens of thousands. Their mercenary IDF is claiming territory like a field day. Market has barely capitulated (which is the only thing this admin care about). I expect this is just Trump buying time until he launches ground invasion after two weeks of failed negotiation. You don't spend millions sending tens of thousand…

Tens of thousands of troops are not really enough to invade a country the size of Iran.

The US used an order of magnitude more in Iraq, which had a third of the population, and a smaller and more geographically forgiving territory.

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I don't understand enough about the US system of government. Are there any hopes of seeing Trump unseated before his term is up? If not for the astonishing damage he's doing to the western world, then only for the sheer fatigue from having every media outlet saturated by him on a daily basis.

If the Dems win the house in the midterms he will be impeached again. If there are 60 votes in the senate he will be out. Dems are unlikely to win the senate, let alone 60 seats. It’s a bizarre situation in that US elections have such a huge impact on a world that has no say.

> It’s a bizarre situation in that US elections have such a huge impact on a world that has no say

No say (or at least, no influence) might be a bit strong given foreign election interference.

I'm sure if Britain or France or whoever wanted to, they could have their intelligence services release dirt on candidates or engage in some dirty tricks.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated." The ten point plan which had previously been rejected outright? The 10-point plan which leaves Iran in an incredibly better finan…

It successfully pushed the Epstein files out of the news cycle for an entire month.

The war began because the Epstein compromising material will likely be made public soon. Once that material is public it ceases to have any value to those who were holding it over various people. Those people in turn were ensuring US military support of a certain country. The logic of the war is that it had to happen now, before that material is released, because after that there is some chance the USA would no longer support said country.

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Seems like Trump agreed to give Iran control over the Strait of Hormuz: https://xcancel.com/araghchi/status/2041655156215799821

What in that do you read as "Trump agreed to give Iran control over the Strait of Hormuz"?

For two weeks, you're going to have to consult with Iran to get through the straits.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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Better article with text: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/apr/07/trump-iran-w... > Israel will also agree to the two-week ceasefire, Axios reported, citing an Israeli official, adding that the ceasefire would enter effect as soon as the blockade of the strait of Hormuz ceased There’s the catch.

Yep. No way they’re opening the Strait of Hormuz until the US/Israel gets the fuck out of Iran.

They’re not in Iran. Both countries have announced an end to offensive operations in the past half hour or so.

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I just don't know how his supporters aren't embarrassed. Nominative determinism is insane. one man trumped the legacy and fortunes of a great nation.

It's a self selection or axiomatic property: if you're his supporter then you have no capability for being embarrassed in the first place.

Re: US and Iran agree to provisional ceasefire

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"We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to negotiate. Almost all of the various points of past contention have been agreed to between the United States and Iran, but a two week period will allow the Agreement to be finalized and consummated." The ten point plan which had previously been rejected outright? The 10-point plan which leaves Iran in an incredibly better finan…

His insider buddies bought the dip so it's time to pump. It's all about enriching themselves with inside information
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