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Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by JoshTriplett »

bookofjoe wrote: post #103
livinglist wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still remember the excitement I felt when I saw this Google Glass concept video in 2012: https://youtu.be/5R1snVxGNVs?si=sVS7wzZ8jYH-oGMM

How about this real-life Glass video I made in 2013 a month after I got mine; forty minutes long, recording the entirely of a 5K race! https://youtu.be/Pu8HTrXI84g?si=puSZt5fYbR69yslo

That's fascinating. The stabilization is surprisingly good. And there's a kind of out-of-focus pulsing that happens to the video periodically. I'm wondering if that might be your pulse against the Glass, abruptly moving the Glass in a way that its stabilization couldn't compensate for.

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by calvinmorrison »

quadrifoliate wrote: post #140
calvinmorrison wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's been [0] days since the "business I contract with to provide services locked me out of the building we rent, ghosted me, and threw all my shit out" article. We really need to just fix the laws.

> We really need to just fix the laws. This. There are something like 150 million Americans with a Google account, and these days it is more important than a phone number to have a working email. Email is a utility. Email companies should be heavily regulated and controlled like phone or other utility companies.

I don't know if I agree it should be regulated like a utility, however I believe contracts and suspensions should require more work than a click of a button.

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by themafia »

bookofjoe wrote: post #24

Once upon a time at Google: The year was 2013, and I'd been selected to be among the first 8,000 people to get Google Glass. I had to go to Google HQ in NYC from my home in Virginia to get it and be instructed 1:1 on how to use it. I was given a toll-free phone number to call for support by a Glass expert, available 24/7/365. Not only did they answer immediately whenever I had even the smallest problem or question: I…

Yep, monopolistic loss leaders can feel great when they're showering you with expensive marketing, right up until they reliably pull the rug in an effort to screw everyone or recoup their losses.

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by gck1 »

wvenable wrote: post #158
deepsun wrote: post #139

I tried to read it assuming the blog post author is a hacker. The hacker could have stolen an OTP device with DNS access, but couldn't steal for the phone number (so they removed it, there was no explanation why phone number is removed). And honestly, how else could they prove they are legit? What if they really are a hacker? It would be cool if Google (and other media giants, especially IdP ones) had an office where…

Now try and read it assuming that instead of a screw up, this user was actually hacked. How do they recover? Honestly, if you are using Gmail as your primary email I could probably ruin your entire year. I could just try and hack you (not even successfully) and Google will just shut down your entire life rather than attempt to work out who's right.

> I could just try and hack you (not even successfully) and Google will just shut down your entire life rather than attempt to work out who's right.

Had this happen to me. Fortunately the 'attacker' wasn't actually trying to do this, so damage was limited, but it's chilling when you think about what some motivated script kiddy can do with your Google account just by requesting password resets.

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by Kwpolska »

gib444 wrote: post #82
Arcuru wrote: post #80

If a service offers "Login with Google/Apple/Facebook/etc" you should never do that if they offer a username/password. It just increases the single point of failure. Avoid places that only offer the "Login with Foo" if at all possible (looking at you Tailscale). As an ex-googler, the only reason I was comfortable keeping even my personal email there was because I could reach out internally if there was a problem. I l…

> Avoid places that only offer the "Login with Foo" if at all possible (looking at you Tailscale). Tailscale is the only serious company that I can ever recall offering /only/ third party login. It's bit bizarre on the face of it. Anyone know the reason?

Perhaps they are not a serious company after all?

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by storus »

I keep paying ElevenLabs for 3 years after some early AI agent project where I used it as my payment data is bound to a google account associated with a phone number that expired in the meantime. I thought adding the google authenticator to the account and switching to it as a secondary authentication method from the phone number would allow me to cancel the subscription, but for some reason Google insists I verify using the expired phone number...

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by lokar »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #67
protimewaster wrote: post #20

I think Google has done some cool stuff, and I think in a lot of ways they're, at least historically, one of the less evil big tech players. I gotta say, though, that my experience with trying to get them to sort out any kind of issue with their services makes me reluctant to spend any money with them. I bought a Pixel phone. As per the sales terms, the phone came with one year of Gemini AI Pro service. Except, the r…

I agree with your sentiment, but I wanted to call out that they've always been just as evil as other big tech companies. I think their motto of "don't be evil" was some pretty clever PR. I started questioning it c. 2008 when they ghosted me on resolving an issue with my blogspot site that was a bug in the platform. All I could get was a condescending non-response from a "diamond" volunteer on a forum. They were appar…

Well, the actual phrase came from an engineer.

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by JimmyBiscuit »

protimewaster wrote: post #20

I think Google has done some cool stuff, and I think in a lot of ways they're, at least historically, one of the less evil big tech players. I gotta say, though, that my experience with trying to get them to sort out any kind of issue with their services makes me reluctant to spend any money with them. I bought a Pixel phone. As per the sales terms, the phone came with one year of Gemini AI Pro service. Except, the r…

They sold me a Pixel phone with a broken battery (I think 6a? Where the battery fails after 400 charging cycles). I got an email and the offer to just get 100$ in cash from them instead of sending my phone away to get it fixed. I never received the money after filling out all the forms. Fuck google.

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by mentalgear »

lokar wrote: post #167
HumanOstrich wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with your sentiment, but I wanted to call out that they've always been just as evil as other big tech companies. I think their motto of "don't be evil" was some pretty clever PR. I started questioning it c. 2008 when they ghosted me on resolving an issue with my blogspot site that was a bug in the platform. All I could get was a condescending non-response from a "diamond" volunteer on a forum. They were appar…

Well, the actual phrase came from an engineer.

Also, the executives 'retired' the official 'Don't be evil' slogan some time ago. I guess they didn't want to be limited. Seems fitting to the suits.

Re: My Google Workspace account suspension

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Post by gorgonian »

drcongo wrote: post #101
gib444 wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Avoid places that only offer the "Login with Foo" if at all possible (looking at you Tailscale). Tailscale is the only serious company that I can ever recall offering /only/ third party login. It's bit bizarre on the face of it. Anyone know the reason?

Curious isn't it, especially as it's such a bad fit for their product - authenticating with GitHub in order to ssh made the whole thing so much more painful than it needed to be. I subsequently tried switching to using a passkey when that became an option, but it's not possible to make the passkey user the owner of a tailnet created by a GitHub org user, so I'm stuck with two users in my Tailscale and can't delete th…

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