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Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by fc417fc802 »

eviks wrote: post #132
digitaltrees wrote: post #106

Its not a hack to copy and paste text that is part of the document data. The incompetence of the people responsible to comply with the law doesnt mean its reasonable to label something a hack. Please change the title.

Also had this first thought, but then a hack could just be a way around a limit/lack of authorization, doesn't have to be unknown/sophisticated, so copy of black boxes fits

> limit/lack of authorization

By serving up the PDF file I am being authorized to receive, view, process, etc etc the entire contents. Not just some limited subset. If I wasn't authorized to receive some portion of the file then that needed to be withheld to begin with.

That's entirely different from gaining unauthorized entry to a system and copying out files that were never publicly available to begin with.

To put it simply, I am not responsible for the other party's incompetence.

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by eviks »

plantain wrote: post #136
eviks wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but smart AF. When Barr’s DOJ released a redacted version of the Mueller Report, they printed the whole thing, made their redactions with actual ink, and then re-scanned every page to generate a new PDF with absolutely no digital trace of the original PDF file. This is a dumb way of doing that, exactly what "stupid" people do when their are somewhat aware of the limits of their competence or only as smart as the te…

>exactly what "stupid" people do when their are somewhat aware of the limits of their competence Being aware of one's limitations is the strongest hallmark of intelligence I've come across...

So following that strange logic if a dumb person knows he's dumb, he's suddenly become intelligent? Or is that impossible by your peculiar definition of intelligence?

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by bdangubic »

nothrabannosir wrote: post #156
bdangubic wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what is the US exactly currently if not dictatorship? is there a single thing “President” cannot do right now and if so who would be stopping him? so perhaps on paper US is not dictatorship much like Russia and China are not… We spend decades trying to fight these regimes and lost so much that now we are worse than them :)

> is there a single thing “President” cannot do right now Stand in the middle of fifth Avenue and shoot someone :) Have political enemies executed Get his face on Mount Rushmore Disband congress Disband the Supreme Court Keep Jimmy Kimmel off air Get Jon Stuart to shut up Get James comey indicted Get a national holiday named after him Etc. Even when we focus on things he tried to do, there is a lot he couldn’t. Let a…

we are 11 months in, please be patient while the process is taking place, be right with you with your list :)

lots of these are of course also just a distraction to discuss at Thanksgiving and Christmas dinner vs you know, other things

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by chistev »

refurb wrote: post #159
vincengomes wrote: post #134

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" - Napoleon Bonaparte Let all the files get released first. Then show your hacks.

Also don’t assume the mistake wasn’t intentional.

"Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by enaaem »

netsharc wrote: post #100
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"There are major differences between the Trump 1.0 and 2.0 administrations. In the Trump 1.0 administration, many of the most important officials were very competent men. One example would be then-Attorney General William Barr. Barr is contemptible, yes, but smart AF. When Barr’s DOJ released a redacted version of the Mueller Report, they printed the whole thing, made their redactions with actual ink, and then re-sca…

It's like Russian spies being caught in the Netherlands with taxi receipts showing they took a taxi from their Moscow HQ to the airport: corrupt organizations attract/can only hire incompetent people... https://www.vice.com/en/article/russian-spies-chemical-weapo... Anyone remember how the Trump I regime had staff who couldn't figure out the lighting in the White House, or mistitled Australia's Prime Minister as Pres…

Reminds of the time Russian security services showed copies of the Sims as evidence of an Ukranian Nazi plot.

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Post by cyberax »

DANmode wrote: post #114
ourmandave wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The pendulum swings. It always does. And all the powers SCOTUS gave the executive branch will eventually be in the hands of the Loyal Opposition. If it swings as far back you might even see universal health care, sane gun laws, fair wages, campaign finance reform, reproductive freedom, science based policy making, reigning in billionaires, etc.

Tell us more about the sane (“common sense”?) gun laws! I love these.

I'd love to limit the semi-auto rifles like the infamous AR-15. Useless for hunting, useless for self-defense. In exchange for country-wide reciprocity for concealed carry and firearm transportation.

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by bdangubic »

jibal wrote: post #148
chocoboaus3 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The supreme court did just stop him for the moment putting the national guard into chicago

"rare setback"

it is not a setback, they have to play a little game now and again to entertain the masses. scotus as it was before doesn’t exist anymore and won’t for decades, it now just rubberstamps

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by bdangubic »

billy99k wrote: post #145
bdangubic wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what is the US exactly currently if not dictatorship? is there a single thing “President” cannot do right now and if so who would be stopping him? so perhaps on paper US is not dictatorship much like Russia and China are not… We spend decades trying to fight these regimes and lost so much that now we are worse than them :)

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I hope you are just trying to be funny cause if you are it is good

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by bdangubic »

hattmall wrote: post #124
bdangubic wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what is the US exactly currently if not dictatorship? is there a single thing “President” cannot do right now and if so who would be stopping him? so perhaps on paper US is not dictatorship much like Russia and China are not… We spend decades trying to fight these regimes and lost so much that now we are worse than them :)

It's pretty clear he can barely do anything policy wise. Limited tariffs and immigration / border stuff is pretty much all that he is getting done.

you don’t need policy, policy is what his predecessors were doing and are now going “wait, we could have done whatever the F we wanted??! damn!!” :)

Re: Some Epstein file redactions are being undone

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Post by irjustin »

rtkwe wrote: post #144
vincengomes wrote: post #134

"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake" - Napoleon Bonaparte Let all the files get released first. Then show your hacks.

They're not 'hacks' it's the people doing the redaction making beginner mistakes of not properly removing the selectable text under the redactions. They're either drawing black rectangles over the text or highlighting it black neither of which prevents the underlying text from being selected. Keeping that secret would require sponaneous silence from everyone looking at these docs which is just not possible.

Yes but don't tell them they're doing it wrong.
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