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No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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I asked ChatGPT to write a Windows GUI C program that looks for a running instance of the onedrive EXE at regular intervals and terminates it while keeping a running log of the attempts in a scrolling window. It took a few iterations to get what I wanted and it was simple to compile with GCC. You can use a Powershell to see if onedrive.exe is running and kill it with the -force option to do something similar ( ps * o…

Why not just uninstall it via powershell scripts like those available from privacy.sexy?

I gutted OneDrive so hard it will likely never come back.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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Having run Linux every day, I can say we’re in trouble if that is the reliable option :) (Agree that Liquid Glass is miserable, though.)

I've faced many fewer hiccups on CachyOS/Arch in the past few months than on Windows. In the first month of owning this hardware, I had an unexplained BSOD that actually bricked my whole Win11 install. And this is pretty recent/funky 2-in-1 hardware, not an old ThinkPad I've cherry-picked for good Linux support. This is an important moment for free software; the big platforms are finally cinching down on users hard e…

same experience here with Omarchy. it’s been (mostly) flawless. the only reason i keep windows around at this point is fortnite.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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I get absurdly annoyed at “Maybe later” buttons. No, go away, never come back, I’m genuinely not interested.

In my opinion, “Maybe Later” buttons are actually useful if implemented for the user's benefit. For example, maybe I do want to hear about OneDrive but I don't have time now. It's a reasonable middle ground between Yes and No.

But the problem is that modern tech companies are using it as a dark pattern to completely eliminate the No option. Sadly, I think this just might need to be regulated out. I don't see any reason why there shouldn' be a regulation that a “Maybe Later” button can't appear in a prompt as the only alternative to Yes, there needs to be a No/Never option as well.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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I wonder if most complaints are about pre-installed OEM Windows Home (the one with Candy Crush and 10s of other crap, including from a vendor) and bundled crappy cut-off OneDrive? I have Windows Pro and Office 365 Family option (5 accounts, full Office and 1TB OneDrive each). Most user-hidden Windows settings are in Group Policy Editor, or registry still works. OneDrive proper has toggles for every folder (Desktop, D…

That is probably the case, but Windows has always been schizophrenic when it comes to settings - there's the UI, the control panel, the second new control panel, the cli, group policy, the registry...

Frame it as "it's 2025 and this is my first look at Windows", it's pretty bad, and it sucks because if they installed on a Home SKU, we end up having to tell them to reinstall to get control.

Maybe we have Stockholm syndrome.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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There are few things that irritate me more than the gradual replacing of "Yes / No" with "Yes / Maybe later".

It's so disrespectful, infantilizing, and paternalistic.

But you see it everywhere now -- Microsoft, Apple, mainstream respected news and media sites constantly asking if you want to use their app instead of their site, or upgrade your plan.

And I don't understand why. It's hard to believe it increases conversion. But it does make people like me angry at the brand.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

It's almost like monopolies aren't good for the consumer. We need some real power for enforcing the Sherman act. Too many companies have been able to buy all their competitors

Unfortunately, anti-trust doctrine in the US has gone from "too little competition in a market is inherently bad" to "any % of market share is OK as long as it doesn't result in consumer prices getting too high too fast." We've really lost the plot of why anti-trust regulation was passed in the first place.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

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What makes this even worse is that MSFT doesn't just do it with their "free", subsidized or bundled versions. They also do it to users who are using the full paid versions of the OS and Office. I paid an extra hundred dollars to get Windows Pro pre-installed on my laptop and a key reason I did so was to avoid this crap. But they still have all the same upsells and dark patterns.

All Windows Pro gives me is the very complex enterprise policy manager with its thousands of options but all the upsell nags, user privacy and other "good for MSFT monetization" options are still defaulted on in Windows Pro. And these options are buried deep in separate tree nodes. It's the same dark pattern Facebook uses around privacy settings. Whenever they have to provide privacy options that allow opting out they adopt "malicious compliance" and over do it in as granular and complex a way as possible - with no "opt out of everything" macro option.

Now I know that I can change all the policy manager options in the registry editor too, and frankly, it's not really much more complex. A couple years ago I realized I make so many changes fixing a new Windows install to be livable and useful that I'd never remember them all. So every time I make a registry change to fix something, I store a registry script that'll make the edit automatically in dedicated folder on my server (it's easy to export a single registry key as a script). As of today there are over a hundred scripts there. I'm getting to the point where I'm probably going to switch to Linux soon. Which sucks because I used to really like Windows (with a few notable exceptions which can be addressed with fixes and helper apps). But the level of work required to keep Windows usable and useful has skyrocketed in recent years. Before I was just dealing with occasional random bugs, regressions and feature oversights by a generally well intentioned OS vendor. Now I'm fighting a rapidly escalating battle against a malicious opponent. It's so dumb because I'd actually pay $100/yr for a "Power Windows" version with no ads, upsells, agenda promotions, dark patterns and a full restoration of all the power user features they keep dropping from Windows 11 (like advanced taskbar functionality).

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#168
post #4

This stuff is increasingly normalized across platforms. I'd say "vote with your wallet", but when all the tech platforms are doing it, there's not much choice. PCs / laptops are probably the last hold out: Just switch to Linux (but be careful which distro you pick) or MacOS (for now). The political pendulum is going to swing far left in the US given the disasters that are playing out in DC. Hopefully this sort of cra…

macOS is absolutely awful about iCloud nag. If you try and use a Mac without an iCloud account, you'll get neverending popups and notifications begging you to go online. It's nearly as bad as Windows. Neither GNOME nor KDE get anywhere near as bad. It's really only these commercial "holier than thou" operating systems that think they know best.

During pandemic I started playing with smart home stuff and since I'm already within apple playgrounds I've got homepod mini since they stripped ipads from hub feature. After configuring the speaker I had apple music ad for about 3 months at the top of settings where ios software update notifications appears.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#169

I asked ChatGPT to write a Windows GUI C program that looks for a running instance of the onedrive EXE at regular intervals and terminates it while keeping a running log of the attempts in a scrolling window. It took a few iterations to get what I wanted and it was simple to compile with GCC. You can use a Powershell to see if onedrive.exe is running and kill it with the -force option to do something similar ( ps * o…

Hopefully everyone uses an Enterprise SKU of Windows so you can just control it with Group Policy.

On Enterprise, you can use its built-in App Locker features to block the execution of any Windows component. I've used it to block Windows Update completely at home after it filled my drive to the last byte and I was sick of my gaming box disobeying.

Re: No I don't want to turn on Windows Backup with One Drive

#170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

During a major update it will be reinstalled.

Nuts. Is this still true? I just setup a Win11 Pro machine for a very non-technical person. Uninstalled OneDrive, hoping to minimize future pain when 90% of the needs are just a web browser and storing camera pictures. (No, Linux was not an option)

I have absolutely seen them reinstall components like that, force their AV back on, force Windows Update back on, etc. It's probably actually good imo for the users I've seen, but admittedly "computer says no" is infuriating if you're sure of what you want.

Try using Group Policy to disable it. I think Applocker is on Win 11 Pro now - if it is, you can block the execution of whatever programs and DLLs you want. I've used that to block Windows Update.

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