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Re: New iMac with M4

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post #144

As someone who mucks around with running LLMs and other large models on my computer the 32GB maximum RAM is a show-stopper for me. I'm on a M2 with 64GB at the moment and I'm already regretting not going for 96 or even 128. I want to be able to run a large model AND other apps at the same time.

M3 MAX here with 128GB ... and even that's not going to be enough one day.

I bet the M4 Max goes to 256. Oh the envy I will have.

Re: New iMac with M4

#162

It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer

yeah I have an older model that had the well documented faulty / fragile screen connector for the LED back lights. Very expensive replacement screen was the recommended fix! all for the sake of a tiny six pin connector.

One of these days I'll split it down and see if my hands are still steady enough to solder on a new connector.

Anyway it was enough to swear me off any all-in-one devices ever again. I thought by now we'd be fully modular with desktop computer hardware.

Re: New iMac with M4

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post #98

It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer

Are you expected to replace your screen often? I don't think I upgrade and replace either one much faster than the other. Usually get a new monitor and a new PC every 4 or so years.

Well.. no. But if it breaks or is damaged you basically have to throw away (the otherwise) fully functional PC.

Re: New iMac with M4

#165

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

> 16GB base RAM, they finally did it. I've paid €200 for 128GB RAM in my PC. How much does Apple charge for 128GB of memory?

Isn’t Apple’s RAM inside CPU package? I think it might not be possible to put together a system (at least with consumer parts) that matches their memory bandwidth.

On the other hand, they are limited in capacity. It is a trade off, it is silly to pretend they are just limiting memory capacity out of the vileness of their hearts or something.

Re: New iMac with M4

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post #76

I could never justify getting an iMac. All the downsides of a laptop & desktop in one; not upgradeable and not portable. Leaves me wondering how many of these Apple actually sell. A Mac Mini with a separate screen feels like it makes far more sense.

Yeah ... I wish they kept the iMac Pro line. An M4 pro in that body heck even with a larger 32inch screen would be awesome!

Re: New iMac with M4

#168
post #144

As someone who mucks around with running LLMs and other large models on my computer the 32GB maximum RAM is a show-stopper for me. I'm on a M2 with 64GB at the moment and I'm already regretting not going for 96 or even 128. I want to be able to run a large model AND other apps at the same time.

RAM aside, it would be silly for you to ever buy this model for your use case anyway. This is the base M4 that's also in ipads with no active cooling. If your running large LLMs locally, you aren't the target market for this product.

Re: New iMac with M4

#169
post #141

What's with the green iMac picture? https://www.apple.com/newsroom/images/2024/10/apple-introduc... It only shows two USB-C ports while further down the marketing material talks about "all four USB-C ports". EDIT: the low-end 8-core model for $1300 only has two ports. It also has what looks like a rear-facing camera in the stand cutout. What is that for? EDIT: It's the magnetic power connector. I did not expect that…

The base model iMac only has two Thunderbolt ports.

> The base model iMac only has two Thunderbolt ports.

Indeed, per specs [1]

[1] https://www.apple.com/imac/specs/

Re: New iMac with M4

#170
post #101
post #16

Why does this still have the ridiculous iMac chin? Surely they can fit everything behind the screen at this point.

The chin gives you a good touch-point for adjusting the angle of the display and the rotation angle of the entire base, without having to worry about touching the screen/screen bezel and getting finger prints on it. It's also a great place to tack post-it notes.

No chin can be adjusted fine on basically any other display on the market today.
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