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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by causal » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:29 PM UTC

mmastrac wrote: post #10

If 32GB is the max, why not just make that the one and only model and get rid of this weird segmentation. That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate. 8GB was practically criminal. Or -- and I know this is crazy -- slottable RAM on a device that is designed for things other than portability. Wild, I know.

Yeah I'm a huge fan of Apple hardware and even I can't handle this. The different in price between 8GB and 16GB for the M3 Air was like $500 at Costco. My air from 2016 came with 8GB.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by gjsman-1000 » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:29 PM UTC

mmastrac wrote: post #10

If 32GB is the max, why not just make that the one and only model and get rid of this weird segmentation. That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate. 8GB was practically criminal. Or -- and I know this is crazy -- slottable RAM on a device that is designed for things other than portability. Wild, I know.

> That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate.

What are you doing? I'm still doing web development with Chrome, JetBrains, and Docker on a 16GB M1 Pro and it isn't a problem. For the average Chrome-using citizen, 16GB should be fine.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by gatkinso » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:29 PM UTC

Interesting to roll out the M4 with the low end machine

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by bearjaws » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:29 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #20

bearjaws wrote: post #6

> the new iMac is up to 1.7x faster than iMac with M1 Now 4 generations in, they are still comparing performance to M1. I get that 15-20% improvements aren't too exciting but it feels old.

In this case it's more fair since the last iMac did indeed have an M1. EDIT: This is wrong: apparently there was a M3 refresh that went under the radar, including mine: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2023/10/apple-supercharges-24...

TIL it went that long without a refresh.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by mholt » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:29 PM UTC

bearjaws wrote: post #6

> the new iMac is up to 1.7x faster than iMac with M1 Now 4 generations in, they are still comparing performance to M1. I get that 15-20% improvements aren't too exciting but it feels old.

They're trying to get current M1 users to upgrade.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

piinbinary wrote: post #11

It's frustrating how disposable these are designed to be edit: e.g. screen replacements cost nearly as much as the entire computer

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Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by emadabdulrahim » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

Mainsail wrote: post #7

Side note, is there anyone that uses a Magic Mouse? It looks uncomfortable to use for an extended period of time and curious if that's true.

Been using it for 10 years. It's my favorite mouse to use. Scrolling and tap gesture is the main reason I prefer it. I also like touching glass/aluminum over plastic.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by pier25 » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

bearjaws wrote: post #6

> the new iMac is up to 1.7x faster than iMac with M1 Now 4 generations in, they are still comparing performance to M1. I get that 15-20% improvements aren't too exciting but it feels old.

Probably because most iMac owners are still on M1.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by haswell » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:30 PM UTC

bearjaws wrote: post #6

> the new iMac is up to 1.7x faster than iMac with M1 Now 4 generations in, they are still comparing performance to M1. I get that 15-20% improvements aren't too exciting but it feels old.

I actually think it makes sense to advertise this way.

Most people I know who bought an M1 (myself included) are still rocking the M1.

People who’ve purchased M2/M3 machines are less likely to be jumping on an M4.

Comparing to an M1 tells the most likely customer exactly what they need to know.

Re: New iMac with M4

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Post by wwalexander » Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 3:31 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #3

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

> They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

Only for the bundled peripherals, it seems. The Apple Store now only lists the full-size Lightning keyboard without Touch ID in white, which is even worse than before when you could get various permutations of tenkeyless, Touch ID, and black.