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I Quit Teaching Because of ChatGPT

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Re: I Quit Teaching Because of ChatGPT

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The real problem seems to be with the testing and grading system, and the fact that some people game them to receive some title or other credentials. If one is really interested in learning to write well, or to understand what good writing is, then this particular teacher might still have liked their job. That approach probably doesn't make much money though.

I don't know. When have you heard a single student or educator in a class suggest, "All submitted papers should be available to be read by everyone in the class"? Think deeply about the impacts of that. Other than a creative writing class, I can't recall a single time when I could read someone else's papers without their express permission. I'm bringing this up because you're talking about a tired trope, that making…

>Think deeply about the impacts of that

I gave it a shot, but I wasn't able to get very deep about it in the first place. I couldn't even begin to come up with any ideas of what could really go wrong if everyone's papers could be freely read by the rest of the class. I couldn't read someone else's papers either, but this was generally because there was no motivation to go to the trouble of gaining access to them, not because it would have been wholly unacceptable.

Maybe I'm just tired, but I think I'm not really grasping how this whole thing follows from / connects to the parent, or within itself; you might have to spoonfeed or state the seemingly obvious or something

Re: I Quit Teaching Because of ChatGPT

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> 5-10 years from now Doesn't anyone think the future is unpredictable anymore? Does your life experience not include things tanking an unexpected turn, ever ? I can't believe how many commenters here and elsewhere take the future trajectory of AI for granted. Where are the flying cars, the moon bases, the nuclear powered appliances? Things don't always go up on an exponential curve, and even when they do, results ar…

Recursive self improvement is not a mirage. Synthetic dataset generation which is actually good (i.e. adds meaningful information by probing a latent space in truly unique ways + very high temperature sampling + including outside feedback for diversity seeding) will solve the "internet is polluted now with LLM outputs" problem Barring that, mass swarms of AI agents going into the world and retrieving new information,…

Your response to my comment is to tell me a number of things that will happen in the future?

You think writing "is INEVITABLE" in caps proves something? You think Science Fiction novels prove something about what will happen in the future?

Is this satire? Do you not understand the meaning of the word FICTION?

Re: I Quit Teaching Because of ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Recursive self improvement is not a mirage. Synthetic dataset generation which is actually good (i.e. adds meaningful information by probing a latent space in truly unique ways + very high temperature sampling + including outside feedback for diversity seeding) will solve the "internet is polluted now with LLM outputs" problem Barring that, mass swarms of AI agents going into the world and retrieving new information,…

Your response to my comment is to tell me a number of things that will happen in the future? You think writing "is INEVITABLE" in caps proves something? You think Science Fiction novels prove something about what will happen in the future? Is this satire? Do you not understand the meaning of the word FICTION?

Life imitates art, not the other way around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_imitating_art

Yes, fiction turning to reality is inevitable. LLMs by definition create "artificial life" out of art. I repeat, reality is teleological.

Re: I Quit Teaching Because of ChatGPT

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post #35

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If they can solve the hallucination problem, sure. Otherwise we're going to have a lot of people who "know" things about the world that are simply made up.

That is and always has been the status quo. The question is if proportionally more or less is made up now. People may be able to learn more true facts thanks to LLMs.

I think "LLMs hallucinate facts less often than people" is a strong stance to take at the moment.
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