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Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by pdimitar »

cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #148
phantomathkg wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be great this set up can be commoditised so everyone can buy one for themselves/family.

You can add it the bucket of similar crap that nerds make when they don’t think to actually check if they’re building something that solves a problem that people actually want solved. The reality is that if you go to any family BBQ and start going on about the importance of self-hosting, I - someone that’s been working with computers my whole life - am going to roll my eyes and not be all that interested in the conve…

> This is all just some nerd’s out of touch pipe dream.

Yes, though only because it's a lot of trouble to set up today.

If it were completely commoditizated -- imagine one more button when setting up a new phone ("Choose where your data resides: Apple, Google, Facebook, Self hosted") and it was completely transparent then it would be used much more, especially if that's complemented by one of the nerds setting up e.g. a neighborhood sync server and everybody around knowing it and using it.

So yes, you are not wrong but the situation can change dramatically if ergonomics are improved. Which sadly most of the nerds never work on.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by jmkni »

dsego wrote: post #42

The thing that scared me recently was two updates that gave me new encryption keys. At first I trusted apple and wrote down the new key. But I became suspicious after the second update and checked online. It seems like it's happening to others, so I used the recommended command-line tool to verify my new encryption key and it didn't verify. Apparently it works after disabling and enabling encryption, but I'm just kee…

Dumb question but how did you find this out? Do you manually check after every software update?

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by WA »

prmoustache wrote: post #104
newrotik wrote: post #49

Only tangentially related, but I have been trying to enroll for Apple's developer program for almost 3 months now. Understanding what the problem is is essentially impossible. Going to a physical store doesn't help, calling their customer service has them telling you to go to www.apple.com/support (???), and writing for support has them rotate you through 4 different, and decreasingly useful, representatives. The las…

Then don't develop for them.

People develop for other people and markets, not for Apple.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by smeej »

cqqxo4zV46cp wrote: post #148
phantomathkg wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will be great this set up can be commoditised so everyone can buy one for themselves/family.

You can add it the bucket of similar crap that nerds make when they don’t think to actually check if they’re building something that solves a problem that people actually want solved. The reality is that if you go to any family BBQ and start going on about the importance of self-hosting, I - someone that’s been working with computers my whole life - am going to roll my eyes and not be all that interested in the conve…

I get what you're saying, but not all of those things are self-hosted. For example, Proton Mail isn't harder to use than Gmail. Signal isn't harder to use than any other messaging app.

I've had great luck convincing even church ladies in their 60s to use both just by explaining that "end-to-end encryption" means that only the sender and recipient can read the messages, not big tech companies and advertisers.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by iLoveOncall »

speedylight wrote: post #17

Considering how important an Apple ID is, this is kind of scary to be honest.

How important is it exactly?

I have had iPhones for more than a decade, and I never leveraged any "feature" of having an Apple ID on any of them.

I've never bought an app or spent money on one, and I don't use iCloud, so the Apple ID for me is literally just a gateway to downloading free apps that I can always redownload with another one.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by [deleted] »

happymellon wrote: post #37
LAC-Tech wrote: post #23

What does it mean to be locked out of your Apple ID? What's it used for?

Your Apple Id is used for everything Apple related. To set up your iPhone, you have to log into your Apple account. Macs don't care as much. If you use "Log In With Apple" then you'll lose that. And if you've decided to use the terrible Passkeys idea, you're locked out of that too.

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Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by VelesDude »

coldtea wrote: post #92

Remember when you didn't need any fucking online account to use your computer? Pepperidge farm remembers.

Come join us in the free world of Linux (and related systems)... even if the wheel do pop off for like no reason some times.

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by thomaslkjeldsen »

notemaker wrote: post #73

With risk of being spammy, this is probably the most relevant discussion I've seen so far on HN w.r.t my experience of being locked out from my Apple ID. I hope legislation will force Apple to step up and be more transparent / helpful. https://skogsbrus.xyz/dont-put-all-your-apples-in-one-basket...

From the timeline:

> got my Macbook Pro from work and signed in to my Apple ID on it.

Wouldn't this result in unintentional data sharing from the work device to your personal devices? (and vice versa)

Re: Apple users are being locked out of their Apple IDs with no explanation

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Post by chrisjj »

dinckelman wrote: post #151

So i'm not the only one, huh. Got myself an iPhone, downloaded 2 apps, went to bed, woke up to a complete lockout. They unblocked me through a phone support request, after 18 hours, and then hit me with a fresh ban, not even 24 hours later. Account got permabanned after like 5 more calls, where they just started sending me a legal notice instead. The fact that your device can become a complete brick, because of an is…

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