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Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by rrr_oh_man »

cactusplant7374 wrote: post #160
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #81

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I don't dislike US-Americans. Very far from it. Most US-Americans that I have encountered (both abroad and stateside) are a lovely bunch, great tippers, and have a distinct happy-go-lucky attitude that is hard to find anywhere else. The crux: When a place gets popular with a certain tourist demographic (through Instagram, Tiktok, whatever) there is an inflection point where the place / experience starts to become com…

I like how the first thing you mention liking is Americans giving you extra money.

Why 'me'?

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Post by panick21_ »

m463 wrote: post #155
Fricken wrote: post #56

>Several years ago, 80 bison were reintroduced two centuries after their disappearance from these territories... I had no idea there were bison in Europe. The provided hyperlink leads to an article about bison being reintroduced in Mexico. Here is an appropriate article about bison being rewilded in the Southern Carpathians: https://rewildingeurope.com/blog/free-roaming-bison-populati... .

It would be interesting to compare population density of europe vs the rest of the world over history. I have imagined that europe was always heavily populated, while north america was sparsely populated (allowing endless bison). Might not be that true, maybe europe wasn't that dense, and also disease killed so many when the first europeans arrived.

The US used to have many competitors to the bison. Many different kind of larger bison. Different types of horses. Giant sloths and so on.

The European Northern plane just turned more into forest rather then remaining more open.

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Post by jameshart »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #64
bavent wrote: post #59

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Really? I thought it was Terry Roosevelt. Do you have a source?

It was Teddy. Via executive orders. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-theodore-roosevel...

But often with the support or lobbying of private interests. Generous souls like Lorrin A. Thurston of Hawaii, who would like you to remember him as the newspaper publishing philanthropist who used his wealth to promote his interest in volcanology and persuade Roosevelt to create the Volcanoes National Park. Which is true - in 1916, the park was established by Woodrow Wilson (helped by Teddy’s endorsement).

But the same kind of private interest taking an interest in the affairs of state has its dark side too: Thurston also was the author of the “bayonet constitution” which undermined the Kingdom of Hawaii's sovereignty, and formed the ‘committee of safety’ which enlisted the US Marines in a coup that overthrew Queen Liliʻuokalani, and installed Sanford Dole (the fruit guy) as and President, and ultimately brought about the annexation of Hawaii.

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Post by svachalek »

m463 wrote: post #155
Fricken wrote: post #56

>Several years ago, 80 bison were reintroduced two centuries after their disappearance from these territories... I had no idea there were bison in Europe. The provided hyperlink leads to an article about bison being reintroduced in Mexico. Here is an appropriate article about bison being rewilded in the Southern Carpathians: https://rewildingeurope.com/blog/free-roaming-bison-populati... .

It would be interesting to compare population density of europe vs the rest of the world over history. I have imagined that europe was always heavily populated, while north america was sparsely populated (allowing endless bison). Might not be that true, maybe europe wasn't that dense, and also disease killed so many when the first europeans arrived.

Contact with Europeans spread new diseases that killed off the vast majority of the Native American population. So it's likely Europe was more populated but not to the degree that settlers found here -- they were moving into a post-apocalyptic wasteland.

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Post by someguydave »

samatman wrote: post #14
bombcar wrote: post #7

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Just go to any other part of the park; though the other parts are not as "interesting". Visit the Zone of Death! Almost completely empty! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Death_(Yellowstone)

The Zone of Death isn't quite a classic "HN tries to compile the law" topic, lawyers have tried to have the boundaries rewritten after all. But what would happen if/when a felony is committed in the Zone of Death is fairly clear. A local judge would rule that "State and district" needs to be interpreted in the intention of the legislature, and can only be "State or district" when those differ, since "neither State no…

Yeah it always seemed unlikely that “the law does not apply” conclusion makes sense there when judges regularly “nope” less solid procedural arguments out of their courts.

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Post by paul7986 »

I have only been to Iceland (jan 2023..first time out of the US and loved it's culture & many things about it) then in May 2023 visited Yellowstone. Iceland has a lot of natural wonders but Yellowstone has more varied natural wonders and all in a smaller area.

I'd personally recommend Yellowstone over Iceland if your looking to experience the best/most unique natural wonders (grand canyon, tons of waterfalls, a massive geyser Old Faithful compared to Stokkur, wildlife safari, hot and colorful out of this world scolding hot pools and more). I do need to do the ring road in Iceland, but Iceland surely does not have wildlife nor colorful hot pools (that i know of anyway).

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Post by olddustytrail »

lukan wrote: post #159
rsdfdfdfdf wrote: post #146

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I don't think there's a much difference in behavior between the species, probably Romania just has more bears living close to humans, which makes them less afraid and conflicts more likely. For the record, my home country (Finland) has about 2000 brown bears, and they have killed only a single person during past 100 years. Most of the time they try their best to avoid humans, and the majority of people living in the…

Romania has more than 2 persons killed each year and many more injured. "Between 2016 and 2021, there were 154 bear attacks on humans, resulting in 158 injuries and 14 deaths" https://www.politico.eu/article/romania-bear-attacks-on-huma...

Just for comparison, how many persons are killed by humans each year?

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Post by Maken »

Fricken wrote: post #56

>Several years ago, 80 bison were reintroduced two centuries after their disappearance from these territories... I had no idea there were bison in Europe. The provided hyperlink leads to an article about bison being reintroduced in Mexico. Here is an appropriate article about bison being rewilded in the Southern Carpathians: https://rewildingeurope.com/blog/free-roaming-bison-populati... .

Prehistoric European cave paintings should make that obvious.
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