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Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by pgalvin »

tejohnso wrote: post #8

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In order to protect an area from capitalism (e.g. logging), you generally need to give the locals some financial incentive. Eco-tourism is widely credited with protecting mountain gorilla populations, for example, when perhaps in a perfect world we’d be able to just leave them alone.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by doikor »

tejohnso wrote: post #8

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I guess it depends if land marked as a natural park is tax exempt or not (don't know about Romania legislation on this). If not then they need some revenue to cover the taxes.

Not a lot of states are willing to put too much of their land outside of the economy (tax revenue).

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Post by samatman »

bombcar wrote: post #7
jderick wrote: post #3

Maybe they can create one without all the traffic.

Just go to any other part of the park; though the other parts are not as "interesting". Visit the Zone of Death! Almost completely empty! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_of_Death_(Yellowstone)

The Zone of Death isn't quite a classic "HN tries to compile the law" topic, lawyers have tried to have the boundaries rewritten after all.

But what would happen if/when a felony is committed in the Zone of Death is fairly clear. A local judge would rule that "State and district" needs to be interpreted in the intention of the legislature, and can only be "State or district" when those differ, since "neither State nor district" isn't going to lead to a "fair and speedy trial".

But this opens a wedge for appeal on procedural grounds, which any defense lawyer would be duty-bound to take, and the whole thing would end up in front of the Supreme Court. Which is a waste of everyone's time, SCOTUS should be creating meaningful precedent with its limited time, not futzing around with the one spot on the map where the Sixth Amendment is ambiguous.

What wouldn't happen is the perpetrator going scot-free. That's not how it works.

It's a cool name though. Very in keeping with the West in general.

Re: Group buys up large tracts of land in Romania to create 'European Yellowstone'

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Post by dakna »

tejohnso wrote: post #8

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There is already a lot of illegal logging in Romania. Timber is a very valuable resource, and capitalism doesn't care if something is legal or not. As long as there are no revenue streams with less risk available, everyone local will have an incentive to exploit this resource.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_mafia

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Post by burkaman »

jderick wrote: post #3

Maybe they can create one without all the traffic.

I haven't been to Yellowstone so maybe this doesn't make sense, but is there a reason they couldn't implement the same system as Zion? During most of the year the main road in Zion is closed to private cars, and everyone uses the (very good) shuttle system, or bikes or walks.
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