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Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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> Mozilla will focus on bringing “trustworthy AI into Firefox.” I hope they will give us ability to turn it off. Or at least LibreWolf will turn it off / remove it. I’d rather they add optional small subscription fee to support themselves if they have to than add AI or some other questionable functionalities.

> I hope they will give us ability to turn it off. I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

That's right: we'll decide what's best for you. Stop resisting.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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That certainly wasn't Microsoft, they're still full on the "CoPilot" hype train, launching a confusing spectrum of different services all under the same name and all before they're actually ready

This assumes they'll ever actually be ready. I'm pretty sure at this point the "reliability problem" is just not solvable.

you're comment is old but what is the reliability problem? If it's the fact that you can't guarantee the same output for a given input then I agree. There are patterns out there where you prompt an llm with a list of functions, their description, and parameters and then ask it to chose one and the params. Then based on the response you call that function and return the results back to the llm to be used as part of the final response to the user's prompt.

If you can't guarantee the output of the llm how can you ever expect this to always work the same? How can you even test it? It may test out ok 99 times but on test #100 it fails. Any hallucination breaks it or, even worse, produces a confident sounding wrong output. Is that the reliability problem you're talking about?

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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The new CEO, Laura Chambers, is an MBA and a former McKinsey consultant ([1]). I would not hold my breath about the future of Firefox. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamberslaura/details/experience...

When I was in college, McKinsey was one of the name-brand, prestigious places students wanted to go and work after graduation. Now it seems to be the laughing stock. What happened?

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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post #39

The new CEO, Laura Chambers, is an MBA and a former McKinsey consultant ([1]). I would not hold my breath about the future of Firefox. 1. https://www.linkedin.com/in/chamberslaura/details/experience...

When I was in college, McKinsey was one of the name-brand, prestigious places students wanted to go and work after graduation. Now it seems to be the laughing stock. What happened?

It always was, you just didn't realize that as a student. At least here in Germany.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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> You don’t know anyone who uses an iPhone to browse the web? What you write as a joke is in my opinion not one: when I consider the department hallway in the office where I work at (not tech sector), you will, I think, only find 2 iPhone owners among about 25 people. One of these iPhone owners is the boss, and the other one is a programmer who vocal about not liking Android. So, depending on your surroundings, it is…

You’re in an emerging market I’d guess. iPhones make up 90%+ of the high value mobile user market.

I'm not in an emerging market. I'm in the US. Of all the people I know, only 3 use iPhones. I rarely see them in the wild, either.

My understanding is that iPhone usage varies wildly between regions of the US. I know that when I go to some areas, I see them everywhere and in other areas, almost never.

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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wow you are right, they have 3,5%. I thought they had like 25-30%. Safari had 18% apparently, I know 0 people who use Safari

> wow you are right, they have 3,5% It depends a lot on the country. In Germany, Firefox' market share is larger since Firefox is viewed as the browser that takes the users' privacy concerns (e.g. tracking, DRM (there still exists Firefox EME-free), ..) most seriously. According to > https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/germ... Firefox' market share is about 18.6 % among the desktop users in German…

That explains things, I in fact work as a programmer in germany :)

They even have ads on the subway here

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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wow you are right, they have 3,5%. I thought they had like 25-30%. Safari had 18% apparently, I know 0 people who use Safari

You don’t know anyone who uses an iPhone to browse the web? Pretty sure that is where that Safari market share comes from.

Except for my mother and sister, actually not no. But I meant on a computer

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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> You don’t know anyone who uses an iPhone to browse the web? What you write as a joke is in my opinion not one: when I consider the department hallway in the office where I work at (not tech sector), you will, I think, only find 2 iPhone owners among about 25 people. One of these iPhone owners is the boss, and the other one is a programmer who vocal about not liking Android. So, depending on your surroundings, it is…

You’re in an emerging market I’d guess. iPhones make up 90%+ of the high value mobile user market.

I work in Germany and I don't know any friend with an iPhone. Of course they exist, but it's a general a disliked phone here for engineers

Re: Mozilla downsizes as it refocuses on Firefox and AI

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wow you are right, they have 3,5%. I thought they had like 25-30%. Safari had 18% apparently, I know 0 people who use Safari

iOS is about ~30% of the global mobile market and ~60% of the US market, and most iOS users use Safari as their browser. So you probably do know people who use Safari.

yes, I thought it was on computers also since as you say all mobiles comes with a default browser so the stats are quite pointless because you could just count the amount of androids and iphones and other phones
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