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Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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Can someone copy-paste the text, please? I cannot read it because Google hates Firefox users apparently. EDIT: The Internet Archive has a functional copy. https://web.archive.org/web/20230810094255/groups.google.com...

No issues with FF for me. Probably the HN effect maybe?

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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My brother passed away very suddenly a few years ago, and I was put in charge of wrapping up and archiving his "digital" life. We were very lucky that we had access to a recovery email for his main gmail account (as well as a couple of passwords that his partner knew) and was able to access and archive virtually all data we could think of (services like Google Takeout were invaluable). I realized that if this had hap…

My brother-in-law's mother passed away last year and he was in a similar situation. Even beyond the digital realm, there are so many details in a person's life that have to be attended to. Insurance, mortgage, vehicle ownership, etc etc. It's really an overwhelming process and it took a toll on him. I've been thinking about building a platform to help prepare for and guide families who are faced with this kind of sit…

I had to go through this for my Mom an ex-pat in Israel. The account I was using was a joint-schwab account we had shared for 2 decades.

I mentioned to Schwab that she had passed and they froze the account until I could prove the estate was less than $14 Million. Needless to say this was a disaster as I was in a foreign country writing checks left and right.

The issue was that it was foreign addressed account of a US domiciled bank. The IRS places the liability of the taxes on the bank if the estate is over $12 Million. Schwab would recognise a letter from the IRS stating that or any US probate court. My Mom's estate with no US assets has no US based probate court access. The IRS rule was enacted after our joint-account was opened and blew up our estate plan.

Needless to say in 30 years I only had one problem with Schwab (which I had praised as the best bank ever until that moment). I have been unwinding all of my families Schwab accounts.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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> what is it that outweighs all that neovim has to offer? You should ask, and answer, the question in reverse. What does neovim offer me, as a regular vim user? I don't see anything particularly interesting for my usage, so I don't have any reason to change. Also, some features are missing (like gvim-gtk, that I enjoy using to edit LaTeX occasionally). Furthermore, as of today, plain vim has an aura of venerability d…

Neovim's language server integration is a killer feature that got me to switch.

Absolutely! I started using LunarVim packages+configs on top of neovim), looks like a couple of years ago according to my work notes, and the LSP has been a huge improvement in my editing.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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Well, why should I? I don't need a reason not to do everything, by default I'm not doing things, it's changing from status quo that requires a reason.

It's easier to maintain one codebase than to maintain two forks. If development of vim dropped and neovim was nominated as its successor, I'd think most vim users would be just fine.

Yes, if vim were unmaintained I would switch, that would be a reason to change. But it's not, or at very least hasn't been, so I haven't, that hasn't been a reason to.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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post #13

My brother passed away very suddenly a few years ago, and I was put in charge of wrapping up and archiving his "digital" life. We were very lucky that we had access to a recovery email for his main gmail account (as well as a couple of passwords that his partner knew) and was able to access and archive virtually all data we could think of (services like Google Takeout were invaluable). I realized that if this had hap…

I have a deadman switch where if I don’t log into a service for 90 days it sends all my passwords and information to my closest living relative.

If you'd be willing I'd be interested to know more about how you did this.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, why should I? I don't need a reason not to do everything, by default I'm not doing things, it's changing from status quo that requires a reason.

It's easier to maintain one codebase than to maintain two forks. If development of vim dropped and neovim was nominated as its successor, I'd think most vim users would be just fine.

Not those of us who gvim/MacVim.

Give a real alternative to those instead of the many quarter-implemented GUI shells that are really no better than running Electron, and the switch might be able to happen.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#167
I never realized a tool I use every day was still being actively maintained. An endless amount of thanks to Bram Moolenaar, the many others that have contributed to it, and those that are now helping in the transition.

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As an aside, browsing this website on an iPad is terrible. It doesn’t respect my request to increase the font size, and when I zoom in, it starts moving and wrapping the text defeating the purpose of the zoom. That being said, the quote formatting and response is fantastic and how online communication should be.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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I have no worry about the funds being lost. It’s just imagining my heirs having to contact and close fifty+ accounts.

Serious question: How common is having dozens of accounts? I live in NL and have 3 at the same bank. Why would anyone have 50+ accounts?

That dude is probably quite wealthy.

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

#169

What is it that prevents the rest of the vim community from adopting neovim? From what I can observe, a great deal already have. But for the folks holding out, what is it that outweighs all that neovim has to offer?

Every time I've tried it, something was missing or broken. Currently it's at least :! which breaks apparently because it tries to do something ‘clever’ and complicated, whereas vi and vim just run the command.

(I can live without cscope, since I no longer do significant C and mlcscope has been dead for aeons, though it's shocking that LSPs are still less capable in some respects.)

Re: The Future of the Vim Project

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post #98

What is it that prevents the rest of the vim community from adopting neovim? From what I can observe, a great deal already have. But for the folks holding out, what is it that outweighs all that neovim has to offer?

MacVim and gVim. I've looked at neovim and there are many GUI options (paradox of choice), some of which I've tried, but at the end of the day, I'm more comfortable with what I'm already familiar with.

This is my biggest hurdle as well. The UI not being part of the core is a non-starter for me and I have tried several of the neovim ones.
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