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Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by pmontra »

oh_sigh wrote: post #113
notyourwork wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A simple example is the media sharing quality is horrendous when you transcend the iPhone/Android boundary. Can you communicate, yes. Is it as good as an all iMessage interaction, no.

Yup...my parents share videos from their iphone to my android and it is of a quality where you can literally count the pixels. Maybe there is a way to share higher quality, but they're not tech savvy and just do what is the default.

Maybe you could use any app asking WhatsApp, Telegram, Skype, Signal or even Messenger (is it still a thing?) They work well with video. WhatsApp wouldn't be running Europe if its videos were bad.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by hospitalJail »

djhworld wrote: post #131

I'm thinking of making the switch to iPhone this year once the USB-C model comes out Whether I regret it, not sure, I mean Android isn't _that_ bad really and the Samsung phones are good, but I think Apple have nailed the ecosystem thing a lot better than what google have.

Careful its a prison.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by joshstrange »

Personally I don't understand the friends I have that use Android. They wear it as a badge of pride that they didn't give Apple money [0], ok... cool? None of them use a third-party app store, none of them use a custom rom, none of them really customize the phone at all past stock. I understand if you want to go the Android route to root/customise it but if you aren't going to do that then I really don't get the point. Google and Apple are, at worst, equal in how "evil" they are and in my opinion Apple comes out on top for more things that I care about.

I also never say shit about their phone/computer choices but for some reason some of them find reasons to bring up my use of Apple products regularly. Makes me think of the scene in Mad Men "I don't think about you at all" [1].

[0] https://youtu.be/z6fX6-aCZ9Y?t=52

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlOSdRMSG_k

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by jwells89 »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #65
throw9away6 wrote: post #62

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Samsung blowtware is a problem though

Which bloatware and what problems does it make you? For me, I don't really consider Microsoft Office as bloatware as I can use it, plus, what's bloatware for you might be useful apps for others, and I found it stays out of my way once I push it to the side if I don't need it, so it's existence is a non-issue for usability. Samsung bloatware used to be bad in the past but now it's decent IMHO, and I think people are b…

I don't want the OS to have any material differences at all between devices. Android should be like Windows, which is the same no matter where it's running. Even the "good" changes that manufacturers make are unwelcome, because they dull much of the appeal of an OS like Android where hardware vendors are interchangeable and can be switched on a whim without software downsides. I don't want to become dependent on some manufacturer-specific change.

If it were practical to do so, every Android device I buy would immediately have its OS replaced with something like LineageOS or Pixel Experience to eliminate these variances, much as technically inclined people will wipe the Windows install that comes stock on a prebuilt PC in favor of vanilla Windows.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by orangepurple »

rootusrootus wrote: post #10
mydriasis wrote: post #2

> Despite inflation numbers falling through the quarter and ongoing strength in the job market, consumers hesitated to upgrade their devices amid market uncertainty.” > Apple’s resilience was driven by strong promotions across postpaid and prepaid. Verizon, AT&T and T-Mobile continued to offer $800+ promo credits for the iPhone 14 while old-generation iPhones were also steeply discounted across prepaid. We are seeing…

I have a love/hate relationship with Verizon. Okay, more often hate/hate, but still. They have the best network in this area when we're out in the sticks. But their pricing is pretty high. They'll offer $800 on a new iPhone, and then the credit comes one month at a time over 36 months. Meanwhile, you're paying $70-80 per phone. You might as well take the upgrade when available, if you're going to stick with them, bec…

Check if your phone supports Band 71 and even better if there is a tower which broadcasts on it near you: https://www.cellmapper.net/

If there is, you can probably find success with T-Mobile or their MVNOs

Example: https://www.cellmapper.net/map?MCC=310&MNC=260&type=LTE&lati...

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by kaba0 »

wcoenen wrote: post #104
tomjen3 wrote: post #92

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Its annoying as hell, because iMessage isn't really useful when most of the people I write to don't have an iPhone. 100% I blame Google though, they need to get their ass together and make their own. It needs to work with everbody who already have a google account and they need to commit to it for 10 year minimum. Then it is reasonable for Apple to create a system so they can talk together.

> It needs to work with everbody who already have a google account and they need to commit to it for 10 year minimum This already exists. 10 years ago, Google Hangouts was separated from Google+. It is currently accessible through the Gmail web interface, Gmail app, and "Chat" app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...

But they still have the chat app in gmail, then there was that allo thing as well, and whatnot.. Google honestly should be diagnosed with ADHD with that attention span.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by tails4e »

Was just on to apple support for an issue with my daughters phone, and I have to say it was a really nice experience. Good online chat first (may be a bot, but if so was a good one), and immediate call from a senior advisor when it needs to be escalated. Issue solved in 10 mins flat. Not sure how well it goes with others, but customer service counts for a lot and glad apple appreciate that.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by Jtsummers »

ars wrote: post #126
tomjen3 wrote: post #92

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Its annoying as hell, because iMessage isn't really useful when most of the people I write to don't have an iPhone. 100% I blame Google though, they need to get their ass together and make their own. It needs to work with everbody who already have a google account and they need to commit to it for 10 year minimum. Then it is reasonable for Apple to create a system so they can talk together.

Google created RCS - it does exactly what you are requesting. But support for it is tepid - even Google Voice doesn't support it.

Google did not create RCS. Google has endorsed RCS and implemented it to some extent.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by kaba0 »

ars wrote: post #126
tomjen3 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its annoying as hell, because iMessage isn't really useful when most of the people I write to don't have an iPhone. 100% I blame Google though, they need to get their ass together and make their own. It needs to work with everbody who already have a google account and they need to commit to it for 10 year minimum. Then it is reasonable for Apple to create a system so they can talk together.

Google created RCS - it does exactly what you are requesting. But support for it is tepid - even Google Voice doesn't support it.

Also, it is just fake open-source, at the end of the day all your data goes through google’s servers, with optional encryption that will be decrypted when you talk to an old device — that’s security theater.

Re: US smartphone shipments fall sharply, but Android more than iPhone

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Post by pmontra »

tomjen3 wrote: post #92
_ea1k wrote: post #16

Apple messaging lockin is having the desired impact. Combine that with Google's mess of a strategy and it is easy to see why this is happening. It is why it is so critical to hire the right people in leadership to avoid squandering key, already successful, strategic positions.

Its annoying as hell, because iMessage isn't really useful when most of the people I write to don't have an iPhone. 100% I blame Google though, they need to get their ass together and make their own. It needs to work with everbody who already have a google account and they need to commit to it for 10 year minimum. Then it is reasonable for Apple to create a system so they can talk together.

Google built more messaging apps than people have fingers in one hand, possibly two. They are not good at them.

Even if they would, what's the incentive for Apple to become interoperable? They want a moat and people that buy what they sell inside the moat.

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