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Re: Update on Sharing

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Post by joshe »

One tip I use is to not waste money is never be subscribed to any streaming platform.

So sign up for 1 month, cancel immediately and then watch what you wish for the month. Netflix used to be a pretty good deal because they had a depth of great old content from the major studios. But now it's scattered all over the other services, and we've all seen most of their decent original content.

Doing it this way I'm subscribed to Netflix 2 months a year. Apple for 1 month. Disney for 1 month. That's a difference of ~$40 a year vs ~$500 a year.

Don't stress that you'll want to watch it and can't. You can just sign up again. Even if you do it 5 months a year, you'll be way ahead. Just use the psychology that if you sign up you cancel immediately. Now the default is to save money.

Don't get drawn into the idea that this is a luxury that you can afford. Wasting money is not luxury.

Re: Update on Sharing

#162

Post by ML_Comp_Sci_Guy »

Dowwie wrote: post #43

I am really curious about how the engineering team took on the challenge of identifying and tracking households within the constraints defined by Apple related to tracking users

It's right here:

https://netflixtechblog.com/machine-learning-for-fraud-detec...

They define any type of sharing as "Account Fraud and abuse of Terms of Service"

Re: Update on Sharing

#163

Post by KomoD »

BXlnt2EachOther wrote: post #119

edit to add: following is totally US-centric! Like the blog post I think? I was not familiar with how much Netflix costs these days, either the subscription or extra sharing slots. Pasted here in case it's helpful. Sorry if this is redundant, didn't find with ctrl-f. Standard with ads: $6.99 / month Basic: $9.99 / month Standard: $15.49 / month (extra member slots\* can be added for $7.99 each / month) Premium: $19.9…

$7.99?? They're doing $4,60 here, and yes, that article is for US based, however they've done more for other countries.

Example, Sweden: https://about.netflix.com/en/news/update-on-sharing-may-se

Re: Update on Sharing

#165

Post by KomoD »

tinglymintyfrsh wrote: post #126
jakebasile wrote: post #113

I think it's pretty ridiculous for Netflix to define what is and isn't my "household".

What if you have 5 homes (with 5 different ISPs)? Is each a household or are the collection of people households? What if you have friends who are basically family who more-or-less live with you? Are they not part of the "household"? "Sorry, Bob, while you maybe my daughter's godfather and donated a kidney to me, you're now going to need your own Netflix account because Netflix wants to mash the 'pump corporate profi…

Who has 5 homes?

Re: Update on Sharing

#166

Post by remus »

crazygringo wrote: post #138
syrrim wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or they were supremely overvalued as of oct '21, as were many other stocks and securities, and the decline represents a return to sanity.

No. It was specifically due to not meeting expected subscriber numbers, prompting a widespread negative reevaluation of Netflix's entire business model. The decrease was way beyond anything affecting the stock market or tech stocks generally. A simple glance at the numbers, and the dramatic plummets directly after earnings reports, makes that clear.

> It was specifically due to not meeting expected subscriber numbers, prompting a widespread negative reevaluation of Netflix's entire business model.

I'd speculate that those expected subscriber numbers may have been inflated by the covid pandemic.

Re: Update on Sharing

#167

Post by hahajk »

joshe wrote: post #161

One tip I use is to not waste money is never be subscribed to any streaming platform. So sign up for 1 month, cancel immediately and then watch what you wish for the month. Netflix used to be a pretty good deal because they had a depth of great old content from the major studios. But now it's scattered all over the other services, and we've all seen most of their decent original content. Doing it this way I'm subscri…

I think this strategy will only work a little longer. The crackdown on sharing is only start. As the pressure increases on streaming services to turn more profits I'd expect longer contract lengths. I wouldn't be surprised to see Adobe-style "reduced price monthly payment" contracts from the more corporate services.

Re: Update on Sharing

#168

Post by justin_oaks »

mminer237 wrote: post #70
bonzini wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The idea that was floated was that they identify a device that defines the household (e.g. a TV), for example based on being always on the same SSID, or being on a wired connection, or the IP address. Then other devices need to be in the same network as that stable device at least say once a month.

So I would not be allowed to watch Netflix on my work computer during my lunch break?

Maybe, maybe not. I would think Netflix would have some distance threshold. They may be able to identify that the location you're watching from isn't far from your home. It's not like most people will commute across the country for work, so if you're within a reasonable commute distance they not view that as a problem.

But if you're using a device that's always 4+ hours drive away, I think it's fair game for Netflix to look at that with suspicion.

Also, Netflix could look at viewing habits from different devices. If you watch something from a device at home, and then watch the next episode of that show at work, that's a good indicator that you're the same person using two different devices.

Re: Update on Sharing

#169

Post by lxgr »

thfuran wrote: post #154
crazygringo wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their stock went from $690 in Oct 2021 to $175 in June 2022. That's a 75% plummet, which is definitely approaching the equivalent of struggling-to-keep-the-lights-on for a modern corporation. That's three quarters of the way to bankruptcy, big red flashing danger lights. So of course this is a calculated bet to improve profitability. Virtually everything a for-profit corporation does is to improve profitability -- th…

>That's three quarters of the way to bankruptcy, big red flashing danger lights. Is it though? Were they funding operations by selling shares?

If their employees are paid in stock, yes.

Re: Update on Sharing

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Post by [deleted] »

joshe wrote: post #161

One tip I use is to not waste money is never be subscribed to any streaming platform. So sign up for 1 month, cancel immediately and then watch what you wish for the month. Netflix used to be a pretty good deal because they had a depth of great old content from the major studios. But now it's scattered all over the other services, and we've all seen most of their decent original content. Doing it this way I'm subscri…

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