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Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480

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Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480

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Resorting to silly Mac user stereotypes that were barely true when they dropped in 2008 is a good way to tell people you’ve never used a Mac or been to a Starbucks in a decade.

This is the comment where I now get offended that you said that as if not using a Mac or not going to Starbucks are shameful. It's rare to see such a flame war on hn

As a coffeebeard I wouldn't be caught dead (nor alive) in a Starbucks.

Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480

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I've owned an upgraded T480 since they were released, run archlinux on it. It was a decent computer, but despite having upgraded the battery to the largest possible configuration and using all the tricks in the book to maximize battery life in linux - it sucked. The reality is these Intel processors are just a big inefficient hot mess. I ended up upgrading to the 14" M1 Max, and there is literally no way you can make…

T480 weighs 3.6lb vs. 3.5 for a 14" M1. I'm surprised you noticed. MBP doesn't have a trackpoint. Still can't run Linux as well, lacks USB A so still requires constant dongles despite improved port selection. I moved from a 2018 15" MBP to a P14s Gen 2 AMD. The speakers, screen, trackpad are worse. But I don't care. I'm not stuck using a horrible OS with miniscule amounts of storage to keep the price down. The machin…

The MBP running Linux in a VM will probably give you the T480 experience - it will be relatively slow (but still fast enough) and use a lot more battery.

Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480

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I've owned an upgraded T480 since they were released, run archlinux on it. It was a decent computer, but despite having upgraded the battery to the largest possible configuration and using all the tricks in the book to maximize battery life in linux - it sucked. The reality is these Intel processors are just a big inefficient hot mess. I ended up upgrading to the 14" M1 Max, and there is literally no way you can make…

T480 weighs 3.6lb vs. 3.5 for a 14" M1. I'm surprised you noticed. MBP doesn't have a trackpoint. Still can't run Linux as well, lacks USB A so still requires constant dongles despite improved port selection. I moved from a 2018 15" MBP to a P14s Gen 2 AMD. The speakers, screen, trackpad are worse. But I don't care. I'm not stuck using a horrible OS with miniscule amounts of storage to keep the price down. The machin…

Is the trackpoint really that important when you have a trackpad which doesn't suck with associated drivers and software which doesn't suck? I've never been using a Mac trackpad and felt the need for something trackpoint-like.

I understand the desire for a trackpoint on laptops with non-Apple trackpads though.

Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480

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> 1366x768 that's a really weird choice especially when you want to doa comparison with a macbook. > Windows also suboptimal in my opinion. thinkpads are fantastic linux machines. i'm running Mint xfce on my 480 and really wouldn't know what could be better about the experience. there are only three things i like better about macbooks: screen, switching workspace with 3 finger swipe, speakers

+1 Screen resolution is the top reason I stick with Macs. Once you gone retina, there's no going back and modern cellphones only reinforce this. It could be my aging eyesight, but I don't remember the last time I saw a pixel. Gamer laptops have the resolution but the price & weight are silly. Would love to be wrong - macos just feels klunky for linux development (slow homebrew, annoying docker, constant reminders to…

Isn't retina just strictly worse? No oled, lower resolution, lower ppi, lower brightness, worse aspect ratio? They are decent screens, but by no measure the best.

Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480

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The biggest contrast here and what we should be concerned about is the fact that this old Thinkpad can be upgraded and still be used vs an old macbook that if speced too low is now useless and ends up on a landfill. Not even considering that new macbooks if locked are unusable on the secondary market and get tossed even if the hardware is perfectly fine. It's as if we have given up on "solving" climate change in favo…

>It's as if we have given up on "solving" climate change in favor of short term profits...

That is such non sequitur. Old hardware gets old that is nothing new. All of us _could_ do our work with laptops from early 2000s, but we don't because we want the benefit of 20 years of hardware improvement.

Why is upgrading an old laptop any better than buying a new one? The parts had to be produced anyway and unless you are upgrading frequently your old laptop will still be noticeably behind in performance.

Sure on some metrics they are fine, browsing hackernews and sending emails is solved and can be done with pretty much every computer.

>Not even considering that new macbooks if locked are unusable on the secondary market

I also don't get what you mean by this. At least my macbooks aren't "locked" in anyway. I can reset them and resell as I see fit.

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