M1 to T480? Odd. I plan to go thinkpad to M series once all the Asahi Linux work is complete and upstreamed so I can run Fedora on it just as well as on x86.
Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
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Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#72I've owned an upgraded T480 since they were released, run archlinux on it. It was a decent computer, but despite having upgraded the battery to the largest possible configuration and using all the tricks in the book to maximize battery life in linux - it sucked. The reality is these Intel processors are just a big inefficient hot mess. I ended up upgrading to the 14" M1 Max, and there is literally no way you can make…
> screen quality > battery life > speakers > trackpad All things you can replace with the T480. Which I've done, and can just recommend. There's much better options than the ones shipped by default, including trackpads rivalling the M1, a screen that beats the M1, and a battery that has 20h+ capacity and can be swapped with a second one to double the capacity in seconds.
> a screen that beats the M1
By what metrics?
Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#73I needed a new laptop and due to that, I've recently spent quite a lot of time browsing reddit, various forums and this sacrosanct place, trying to find information about experiences with laptop's brands and configurations. I ended up purchasing a Lenovo P15v AMD due to its upgradability and internal ports (RAID capability, non-soldered RAM memory) but was very close to get a Mac M1/2 laptop. I ditched the idea in th…
I think I saw something about kernel compatibility just the other day. No idea what the other pieces are the puzzle are.
Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#74The biggest contrast here and what we should be concerned about is the fact that this old Thinkpad can be upgraded and still be used vs an old macbook that if speced too low is now useless and ends up on a landfill. Not even considering that new macbooks if locked are unusable on the secondary market and get tossed even if the hardware is perfectly fine.
It's as if we have given up on "solving" climate change in favor of short term profits...
Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#75aside the hardware, when I changed from macbook (2019) to thinkpad, the biggest advantage and source of happiness is to never need to touche Finder again! It is horrible! the desktop, gui, cmd-tab, and whole user experience with 2 monitors (could not get 3 monitors to work) is just awful. With win 10 latest update it's a breeze
Interesting.
I've switched from Win10 to Mac for work last summer and it's been great so far. IMO Finder and Explorer are both garbage with different colored glitter mixed in, but general experience of working on MacOs is so much better than everything my Windows and Linux boxes offered.
This laptop has 16 gigs of ram (my windows workstation has 48), can run on one charge whole work day and then some, emits zero noise and is very responsive no matter how many tabs and live-reloading applications I have running. Super impressive to me.
Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#76I also do all of my development on various ThinkPads I've owned throughout my life: T480, T490, P51..
I like cheap, upgradeable laptops over Macs since:
* I can put what I want in them. I don't want to pay Apple 200 euros for 8GB of RAM.
* It's not a treasure. I take care of it because it would be annoying to have to replace it, but my wallet wouldn't cry over a cheap second-hand machine
* They run Linux well
* My P51 has a Quadro dGPU that can play basically all games before 2018, which is enough for me (and better than what a M1 can do)
I literally don't see an advantage to owning a M1 besides better resolution (why people want a trillion pixels on their screen I don't get also. I can see perfectly fine without 4K) and build quality.
Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
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Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#78I love thinkpads but the T480 is basically objectively worse in every single aspect except price and repairability. I don’t think I can go back from all day battery and quiet CPU during high loads. I could definitely use my T450 for however long I need and know I can replace parts, but I’d rather have macs for 5 years and upgrade for another performance bump. Some things are just nicer
> ...except price and repairability.
And keyboard.
Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#79Also Aussie, also won't be buying another Mac. Issues I have include: crapstore, refusal to upgrade XCode which makes the hardware soon-useless (at least brew is complaining), and three different upgrades that killed third party USB drivers (one killed my favourite keyboard, one killed my non-Apple branded USB network adaptor, and one killed connectivity with some CHxxx UART driven microcontrollers). I would say quite seriously that Apple is no longer suitable for development. I will be focusing on Linux desktops again from now on.
Re: Replacing my MacBook Air M1 with a ThinkPad T480
#80I've owned an upgraded T480 since they were released, run archlinux on it. It was a decent computer, but despite having upgraded the battery to the largest possible configuration and using all the tricks in the book to maximize battery life in linux - it sucked. The reality is these Intel processors are just a big inefficient hot mess. I ended up upgrading to the 14" M1 Max, and there is literally no way you can make…
> screen quality > battery life > speakers > trackpad All things you can replace with the T480. Which I've done, and can just recommend. There's much better options than the ones shipped by default, including trackpads rivalling the M1, a screen that beats the M1, and a battery that has 20h+ capacity and can be swapped with a second one to double the capacity in seconds.
Right, but "If you upgrade the screen, batteries, trackpad, speakers, RAM and SSD and then it's a pretty good laptop" isn't exactly a ringing endorsement.
A 38-horsepower 1980s Mini 1000 is a fast car, if you install the engine and drivetrain from a Toyota Celica GT-Four.