Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

sydney.edu.au

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

161–167 of 167 posts

Re: Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

#161

Post by oaktrout »

anonymouskimmer wrote: post #148
oaktrout wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was under the impression that there is no data showing that the covid mrna vaccines reduce transmission. If you are aware of a source that says otherwise I would love to check it out.

I can't find the article I read a month or so ago that indicated a low protection of around 20% compared to vaccinated. Here's a much older article about the original omicron (quite distinct from the BA.2 descendants we have now): https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7109e1.htm > The ARs among household contacts of index patients who had received a COVID-19 booster dose, of fully vaccinated index patients who com…

I appreciate the response. Hard to draw many conclusions from that study for a number of reasons, but perhaps the greatest in my mind is highlighted near the end: "TCOVID-19 prevention measures (vaccination, isolation, and mask use) are likely highly correlated within households, and the identified risk factors might not be independent predictors of transmission".

Basically this article doesn't show that vaccines prevent transmission. It doesn't show they don't either, although that there wasn't a more dramatic effect is a negative finding in my opinion. I wish the authors had analyzes the AR in vaccinated vs unvaccinated household contacts.

Re: Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

#162

Post by randm_sequence »

latchkey wrote: post #150
landemva wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just read this January 2023 article by a person with last name Fauci that claims coronaviruses have never been controlled by vaccines. More communication problems or admission of mistakes? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9832587 Rethinking next-generation vaccines for coronaviruses, influenzaviruses, and other respiratory viruses David M. Morens, Jeffery K. Taubenberger, and Anthony S. Fauci 'Because t…

> with last name Fauci that claims coronaviruses have never been controlled by vaccines Actually, the full text is: "Viruses that replicate in the human respiratory mucosa without infecting systemically, including influenza A, SARS-CoV-2, endemic coronaviruses, RSV, and many other “common cold” viruses, cause significant mortality and morbidity and are important public health concerns. Because these viruses generally…

Countless studies have shown that SARS-CoV2 can infect systemically and not just the lungs. The SARS-CoV2 virus has been found in virtually every organ and the first autopsy studies in 2020 demonstrated this.

It is horrifying that the person who has lead the response to this virus for the US is a coauthor of this factually incorrect statement 3 years into the pandemic.

Re: Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

#163

Post by latchkey »

randm_sequence wrote: post #162
latchkey wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> with last name Fauci that claims coronaviruses have never been controlled by vaccines Actually, the full text is: "Viruses that replicate in the human respiratory mucosa without infecting systemically, including influenza A, SARS-CoV-2, endemic coronaviruses, RSV, and many other “common cold” viruses, cause significant mortality and morbidity and are important public health concerns. Because these viruses generally…

Countless studies have shown that SARS-CoV2 can infect systemically and not just the lungs. The SARS-CoV2 virus has been found in virtually every organ and the first autopsy studies in 2020 demonstrated this. It is horrifying that the person who has lead the response to this virus for the US is a coauthor of this factually incorrect statement 3 years into the pandemic.

> Countless studies

Not that I don't believe you, but source?

> this factually incorrect statement

Exactly which factually incorrect statement?

Re: Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

#164

Post by aflag »

logifail wrote: post #155
aflag wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was not really suggesting kids should be isolated whenever they have any sort of possible symptoms. But if you're diagnosed with some contagious illness, it's probably not a bad idea to try to curb the spread.

> if you're diagnosed with some contagious illness, it's probably not a bad idea to try to curb the spread This was always true, and we never sent an obviously poorly child to daycare/preschool/school. I've lost count of the number of times I've picked up one of our kids from daycare/preschool/school before Covid after a phone call along the lines of "your child has spiked a fever/vomited/has had an accident and shou…

Sure. If your kid is testing positive for a contagious diseases which killed over 6 million people worldwide and left many with long lasting effects, wouldn't common sense dictate that they should stay at home?

Re: Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

#165

Post by sokoloff »

aflag wrote: post #164
logifail wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you're diagnosed with some contagious illness, it's probably not a bad idea to try to curb the spread This was always true, and we never sent an obviously poorly child to daycare/preschool/school. I've lost count of the number of times I've picked up one of our kids from daycare/preschool/school before Covid after a phone call along the lines of "your child has spiked a fever/vomited/has had an accident and shou…

Sure. If your kid is testing positive for a contagious diseases which killed over 6 million people worldwide and left many with long lasting effects, wouldn't common sense dictate that they should stay at home?

PCR testing, as applied in the current COVID testing protocols, is not an appropriate tool to approximate contagiousness. It reliably tells of prior exposure, that's all.

Re: Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

#166

Post by [deleted] »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #54
anonymouskimmer wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You're still touching things, then touching your face. > Your eyes are exposed to the air. I'm not the person you're responding to. Just what I do. The mask covers the mucus membranes, except around the eyes. And I've got glasses with side-shields for the eyes. And an ASTM-III mask over the N95 mask so that I can touch and manipulate the masks without touching the breathing surface of the N95. > You're still breath…

I wear an N95 when I go out but only my regular glasses. I too haven't been sick since January 2020. I used to get colds pretty much quarterly, and so it's absolutely worth it to me. If it bothers someone else to see me wearing one that's their problem, I'm not asking them to wear one.

[deleted]

Re: Scientists discover receptor that blocks Covid-19 infection

#167

Post by vGPU »

bglazer wrote: post #142
Mountain_Skies wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People are scared of needles is incredibly dismissive and likely intentionally insulting. People aren't afraid of the needles; they're concerned about the unknown impacts of what's being injected through the needles. While needle phobia exists, it's very small percentage of those who didn't want the mystery chemical cocktail pushed by those who openly told countless "noble" lies. The vast majority of these people hav…

I think it was perfectly reasonable to take the tact of waiting to see the safety of mRNA vaccines. Now, however, they’re considerably less mysterious than you say they are. Several billion people have now received them, and any honest reading of the evidence from that would strongly support them being very very safe. If there were serious safety problems, we would have seen them undeniably by now.

Aside from multiple revisions to the list of risks, each adding multiple cardiac side effects.
Post reply on HN