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Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

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Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

#162

Wow that's great news! The level of bureaucratic creep that has been imposed on property owners is actually unbelievable to me. I obviously understand some regulations (you can't built a chemical processing plant in a residential neighborhood, obviously), but cities have creeped themselves into all-powerful overseers. Most cities now have the power to tell you what kind of house you can build, how you can paint it, h…

For what it's worth, most zoning is created by property owners, too. Gotta preserve their investment at the expense of our nation's growth.

100%. It's NIMBYs who drive the creation of these laws, actively block multi-family housing, prevent development of new roads and resources, etc...

Now with large corporate ownership in residential real estate the problem has gotten worse as houses are investments not places for people to live.

Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

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Well, we are going to find out. Something tells me everyone who's homeless isn't a fentanyl addict. Especially given housing costs.

> Something tells me everyone who's homeless isn't a fentanyl addict. Especially given housing costs SF/LA has numerous programs that will give you housing if you're homeless. The issue is that many of the homeless refuse to take up these programs and insist on staying in their tents.... because they're mentally ill.... because of drugs.

The provision of housing to the homeless can be refused for a lot of reasons. One being that the housing might be in a place where the person has no access or restricted access to other social programs such as food or jobs programs. The housing might make them feel unsafe, such as being crammed into a shelter. The housing might be overly restrictive, such as refusing to allow them to bring their pet which may be the only thing keeping them going emotionally. They may feel they don't have adequate support to transition to housing, if the housing demands they get off an addictive substance first (chicken and egg problem, because its much harder to get off an addiction if one is currently in crisis like being homeless).

Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

#164

Wow that's great news! The level of bureaucratic creep that has been imposed on property owners is actually unbelievable to me. I obviously understand some regulations (you can't built a chemical processing plant in a residential neighborhood, obviously), but cities have creeped themselves into all-powerful overseers. Most cities now have the power to tell you what kind of house you can build, how you can paint it, h…

> If you don't want to deal with living near other people, move to the country. The reverse could also be said - if you don't want to deal with people deciding together that they want their community to have certain guidelines, move to the country. You can do pretty much whatever you want in rural areas without significantly impacting your neighbors. People living together in a small area do get to decide together wh…

Again this is where we are getting into what it means to own something. Do I own the property or not? If my neighbors want to get together and buy my house from me because they want to do something with it, then they are by all means allowed to do so.

Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

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> Something tells me everyone who's homeless isn't a fentanyl addict. Especially given housing costs SF/LA has numerous programs that will give you housing if you're homeless. The issue is that many of the homeless refuse to take up these programs and insist on staying in their tents.... because they're mentally ill.... because of drugs.

You should look at the often onerous restrictions that come with those programs, often including: * No Pets * No Visitors * Curfew Time * Limits on the number of people per unit (meaning, families and couples cannot always be accommodated together) - and a host of others. Also in some places there is a requirement that you have a social worker, and/or receiving mental healthcare treatment - except there are long wait…

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Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

#166

Sounds too good to be true. I’m skeptical that cities won’t just add more rules and reviews that end up extending the process 2x or more (plus more review fees!)

Exactly -- have any of the houses in Santa Monica actually been built?

Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

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isn't building high-rises in SF precarious because the ground is soft, with inadequate bedrock? are there also concerns about aesthetics, if i understand?

From what I understand it's about the same as building in Tokyo. With modern technology and proper materials you can build a safe building. But the residential tower currently sinking into the ground indicates that either that isn't actually true or the rules aren't being enforced.

Yeah, that one was a case of taking shortcuts. The bedrock was 200"[1] down but the studies they used said that wasn't necessary. So NOW they are taking steps to introduce new pilons that go all the way down to bedrock and will be braced to the current, faultily installed ones.

[1] Not sure the exact depth, but whatever, they went like half way down to save on money.

Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

#168

Wow that's great news! The level of bureaucratic creep that has been imposed on property owners is actually unbelievable to me. I obviously understand some regulations (you can't built a chemical processing plant in a residential neighborhood, obviously), but cities have creeped themselves into all-powerful overseers. Most cities now have the power to tell you what kind of house you can build, how you can paint it, h…

> you can't built a chemical processing plant in a residential neighborhood, obviously

Actually we have oil derricks in the middle of residential neighborhoods in Los Angeles.

Re: Builder's Remedy goes into effect in many California cities tomorrow

#170
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This seems like a way to reduce homelessness and fix the housing market in one fell swoop.

> reduce homelessness Is the homeless problem due to the cost of housing? Or is it moreso due to fentanyl?

Homelessness also makes people get addicted to alcohol and drugs too.
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