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Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by hahajk »

oDot wrote: post #133

I am the author of https://Nestful.app (there's some overlap, but we do not seem to compete). I have built it after being through the same ordeal, and have come to the conclusion that the tool is not the main hurdle, especially at the level of Trello or Asana, which are very high quality tools. The lack of productivity comes from the methodology those tools implement. Their methodologies contributed a whole lot but b…

Like others have said, your comment here is very interesting and makes me want to learn more, but your (pleasantly minimal) homepage has no more information.

Amplenote has a unique "idea/concept" they're designing for, and they spell it out in a series of very interesting blog posts [1]. I don't practice their "idea funnel" concept but their blog post made me interested enough to eventually subscribe to their service.

It would be really cool to see a similar post for Nestful.

[1] https://www.amplenote.com/blog/jots_unify_four_apps_ideas_in...

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by Terretta »

Keyframe wrote: post #44

Kudos to your effort! I think I will be next in line, over time, with similar post. Everything I’ve tried is just not working (in full). From now great experience, it seems team sizes need definitely different approaches and also it seems people building those tools don’t really have much experience in what works and what doesn’t across orgs and team sizes. To be honest, I strongly believe it’s not possible to build…

> it seems people building those tools don’t really have much experience in what works and what doesn’t across orgs and team sizes...

Try Linear.

https://linear.app/method

Opinionated, in a good way, and willing to slay sacred cows, such as replacing estimated sprints with you get done what you prioritized cycles, or milestones with roadmaps.

(Now if I could just get them to replace "Projects" with something evergreen teams can work on, like "Capabilities". Fortunately all that has to change is the label.)

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by tonypham »

_trackno5 wrote: post #146

This looks great! I'm definitely trying it out. My only feedback for you is this: Charge more. You're undercutting yourself a lot by just charging $6 per user. At the very least double that to $12 and it would still be a great price for the value you're offering.

Thanks for your suggestions. We're still early days, and the app needs a lot of improvement though. We'll definitely consider charging more in the future. Cheers,

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by e-clinton »

_trackno5 wrote: post #146

This looks great! I'm definitely trying it out. My only feedback for you is this: Charge more. You're undercutting yourself a lot by just charging $6 per user. At the very least double that to $12 and it would still be a great price for the value you're offering.

Disagree with this. Companies like Microsoft, and Zoho provide these types of tools as part of a broader subscription. For $5/user, I can get email, MS Teams, cloud storage, a tool similar to this, plus tons more.

Why would I pay $12/user just for this tool?

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by postcoroner »

mgkimsal wrote: post #157
postcoroner wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 2GB of persistent storage 2 GB is a lot when you store plain json document data. > IndexedDb is the only option, it's slow on writes Only when you need a new transaction per write. Writing many documents in a single tx is not slow [1] > Safari are known to delete IndexedDB after 1 week This is not really a problem because if you have not used the app for one week, you can just replicate the data from the server aga…

> This is not really a problem because if you have not used the app for one week, you can just replicate the data from the server again. You can't if you haven't been able to push up the data for a week. But in that case, you'd just have to remember to 'use it' ever day or so. Had a use case a few years back for data collection app in remote African villages. There were definitely situations where a week without dece…

Cool, but we are talking about a PM tool here, so what really matters is people having no/slow internet for a short period of time.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by clairity »

oDot wrote: post #133

I am the author of https://Nestful.app (there's some overlap, but we do not seem to compete). I have built it after being through the same ordeal, and have come to the conclusion that the tool is not the main hurdle, especially at the level of Trello or Asana, which are very high quality tools. The lack of productivity comes from the methodology those tools implement. Their methodologies contributed a whole lot but b…

for perspective, i built a personal crm that told you who to engage next (via a dynamic contact list powered by interaction data streams). it failed[0] because this was not actually the biggest pain point of sales people (folks most likely to use and pay for such a tool), and it was too important a decision point for users to rely on it solely.

a smart tool, it turns out, isn't all that useful, even though it has wow factor. it may even be enough of a wow to be an effective marketing tool, but an effective marketing tool is not an effective productivity tool.

[0]: we found more success as a general sales team dashboard based on the underlying realtime data

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by tonypham »

alexose wrote: post #151
oDot wrote: post #133

I am the author of https://Nestful.app (there's some overlap, but we do not seem to compete). I have built it after being through the same ordeal, and have come to the conclusion that the tool is not the main hurdle, especially at the level of Trello or Asana, which are very high quality tools. The lack of productivity comes from the methodology those tools implement. Their methodologies contributed a whole lot but b…

This seems cool, but I'd definitely focus on explaining the methodology a bit more. I'm not quite sure how I'm supposed to be using it...

Thanks. We're not doing a great job on the website copy. Definitely will look into it.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by hdjjhhvvhga »

oDot wrote: post #133

I am the author of https://Nestful.app (there's some overlap, but we do not seem to compete). I have built it after being through the same ordeal, and have come to the conclusion that the tool is not the main hurdle, especially at the level of Trello or Asana, which are very high quality tools. The lack of productivity comes from the methodology those tools implement. Their methodologies contributed a whole lot but b…

Since you haven't provided any information besides "Try it, you'll love it", I tried it, and I'm sorry to say our relationship didn't work out. My Notepad++ is more useful. You comment in a thread on a PM tool, and your app seems like a scratchpad. For sure it fill find its users, but it's a far cry from Upbase and similar projects.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by tonypham »

anilshanbhag wrote: post #122

Curious why are you selling your lifetime plan on AppSumo instead of on the website? Doesn't AppSumo take a fat cut.

Yes, AppSumo does take a 30% cut. We'd like to tap into its large customer base, so we decided to run on AppSumo only.

Re: Show HN: I built my own PM tool after trying Trello, Asana, ClickUp, etc.

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Post by tonypham »

pcurve wrote: post #128

unlimited storage for $49 one time fee? I'm guessing you'll be introducing new plans in the future?

I can guarantee that there's no upsell whatsoever. Yeah, some users will use a lot of storage, and we'll end up losing money on them, but not all users - I guess.
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