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Re: Back to India

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Post by nonamechicken »

riantogo wrote: post #99
arcen wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree things aren't the best and you make several valid points. However, seems to me that you are in the camp who would rather shit on their own country instead of finding ways to make things better for everyone. You too are a part of the privileged class at this moment - sitting in the US (presumably).

Shit on your own country? What does that even mean? The place you were born by chance? Now you have to “own” it as an identity? Do you have the same beliefs about government? religion? caste? race? I suggest you try freeing yourself of such burden.

I know with 100% certainty that unless I go fight for something like ISIS, India will take me back without any problems. No one else will do that. That's where the country of birth becomes important for me.

Re: Back to India

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Post by nonamechicken »

ramraj07 wrote: post #40

Good for you but there’s no real advantage professionally in moving back, but no disadvantage either. Sure you’re saying H1B restricts but does it really? Have you truly explored all immigration options? Or did you just balk at all the extra beauracracy and said I’ll go back to india? Which is fine, but do note the irony of moving to india to avoid bureaucracy lol. Apply and do your GST, run between five different br…

> my partner said she will never bring a girl child up in india

My wife also has a similar opinion - that being a woman in India is very hard. Yet, she wants to go back to India more than me.

Re: Back to India

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Post by whydid »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #74

Fuck the H1b visa. Yes I understand that we have created a huge GC backlog by immigrating here in large numbers but that doesn't mean we should be dragged around like a toy. This is sadly the impression I've formed these days. Our entire lives here revolve around that visa and we could basically be holding on to it for 30 to 50 years before we can get a GC lol. In the meantime, maintaining our driver's licenses, bein…

It's an abusive system that only benefits large corporations.

Re: Back to India

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Post by NovemberWhiskey »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #18
hans1729 wrote: post #5

I'd imagine moving back to India after being successful in the US gives you lots of leverage and status, in the sense of being a big fish in a smaller pool (what a beautiful irony, thinking of India of all places as the smaller pool, heh). But lets be real, isn't the quality of life much worse? I've never been there (or in the US, for that matter), but I'd imagine that things like infrastructure are far worse in Indi…

There will always be subjective differences between India and the USA and not everything is hunky dory, but there are some things India is IMO better than USA for an Indian expat: 1. Climate: India is definitely sunny and enjoys predictable weather patterns all year round. Climate change might upset the equation, but it is still bright and sunny. 2. Biodiversity: India is 7th largest country with lots of great places…

>There is house help readily available

There is house help readily available in the U.S. - the caveat is that you can't afford it unless you're super-wealthy relative to the average population. Incidentally, that's the same in India.

Re: Back to India

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Post by rayiner »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #158
rayiner wrote: post #155

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It’s not about the ethnicity of the people who have immigrated, but not creating incentives for new people to come here permanently. Not “no Indians” but instead “America is full.” I don’t believe America really needs high skill labor. When my family came here in 1989, America was already the undisputed #1, and there were less than 1 million desis in the country. Today there are over 6 million—but America is in decli…

I guess it was the undisputed no. 1 in 1989 because it already had a surge of immigrants by then. Heck, America was made by immigrants if it comes to that. I'm not saying it needs me, but generally standing strong at the top has its cost - to have a rock solid administration and to keep bringing the cream of the world to work for them. There couldn't have been such a boost possible otherwise.

> I guess it was the undisputed no. 1 in 1989 because it already had a surge of immigrants by then. Heck, America was made by immigrants if it comes to that.

Those immigrants were the poorest and least educated ones Europe and Asia had to offer. I’m just saying it’s presumptuous to say America “needs” the educated elite from other countries.

Re: Back to India

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Post by isignal »

frontman1988 wrote: post #22
akmittal wrote: post #15

It is time real innovation has started in India. India is embracing tech for new fields like agriculture, India's fintech is thriving, Indian govt is investing a lot in semiconductor fabs. A lot of people i know moved to US because of huge salary gap. Now that gap has reduced a lot and you can save more in India maintaing same lifestyle.

Gap has reduced but Silicon Valley still pays 4-5 times more for the same job than Indian salaries. As a single guy you can save a lot even accounting cost of living. Probably the reason which helped OP come to India(along with Tesla stocks 10xing)

Quality of life for the same pay is different though. In India, labor is much cheaper. However, rule of law, open space etc are not as good. Working temporarily in the US to save money for India could be a good arbitrage.

Re: Back to India

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Post by renewiltord »

rayiner wrote: post #120
princevegeta89 wrote: post #74

Fuck the H1b visa. Yes I understand that we have created a huge GC backlog by immigrating here in large numbers but that doesn't mean we should be dragged around like a toy. This is sadly the impression I've formed these days. Our entire lives here revolve around that visa and we could basically be holding on to it for 30 to 50 years before we can get a GC lol. In the meantime, maintaining our driver's licenses, bein…

Americans want H1Bs to be temporary workers who go back home, not immigrate permanently. That’s why the statute has “temporary” plastered all over it and has since it was written in the 1950s. That’s why the latest Democrat-backed reform bill still has temporary prominently right in the title of the Act: > To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to reform and reduce fraud and abuse in certain visa programs for a…

Literally every sentence here is wrong. Pro-immigration sentiment is at its highest in decades. The H1-B visa is a dual intent visa and is the only real mechanism for skilled professional immigration.

The whole comment is so uninformed it’s just wholly nonsense. It’s fiction from the /r/asablackman genre.

Re: Back to India

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Post by thematrixturtle »

glogla wrote: post #54
vishnumohandas wrote: post #11

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I moved from Switzerland to India sometime back, for reasons similar to OP's. Here are my ₹2 > quality of life "Quality" is subjective. My wife and I value having our parents around, being able to afford a cook/maid/nanny, not having to deal with winter and darkness, ... > infrastructure For sure it's worse in India. But our lifestyle here is such that we don't have to deal with it frequently. We live next to friends…

> being able to afford a cook/maid/nanny Having domestic servants is only possible in placesi of high inequality.

"Indeed", nodded the HN reader sagely, as they sat in the back of their Uber ordering some Doordash and checking on the cleaner with Handy.

Re: Back to India

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Post by renewiltord »

hinoki wrote: post #79
srvmshr wrote: post #65

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Except 4 & 5, the first few cannot be said "subjectively better". This is your personal opinion, not the "statistically true" opinion. >Climate Definitely hotter in most (80%) of India, from late February to mid-October. US states enjoys more cloudless sunny weather per annum. >Biodiversity: India is 7th largest country with lots of great places to visit. Mountains, deserts, beaches, jungles, plains [...] US is almos…

I’ll have to nitpick your last point. Unless you’re going to a farmer’s market, the quality of fruit and vegetables in America is abysmal. Watery hard fruit, etc. You can get the same terrible strawberries all year round if you want though. I’ve never been to India, but I assume the situation is better, at least based on how people rave about mangoes.

Fruit in the tropics is unbelievably different from anything you can find in California. You can end up paying Erewhon and higher prices in the US and not getting close to the cheap tropical fruit in India.

It’s a choice, though. Sushi is not as well available. European food is rare. Beef is not as good in India.

If you’ve got cosmopolitan sensibilities you will find that there are trade-offs. For some reason, people get very attached to food so these comments get very contentious.

But a fresh ripe banganapallee is not something you’re really going to experience in America. It is just absent.

And if you live in India only, you will never get to experience top quality BBQ. This is reality.

Re: Back to India

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Post by thematrixturtle »

saidinesh5 wrote: post #61
sid-ant wrote: post #25

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That's correct. I live in Bangalore, India and there are a lot more issues than just quality of life. 1. Since, I am from North India, Bangalore treats us like foreigners i.e. if you don't speak the native language, you will be at a significant disadvantage when requiring the assistance of police. 2. Rather, the police has been known to discriminate against `outsiders`. You can even head over to r/bangalore to know m…

Not trying to prove / disprove things, but here are some observations. 1. Yeah the language barrier can be a lot - but no matter which city I lived in - I have always had people help me out with the local language. In smaller villages/towns - it can be harder to find people who can do that for you though. 2. I can't say much about this because I didn't have to deal with this in a meaningful way. 3. I think it is more…

Are you seriously claiming that a pani puri vendor on the street makes more than a FAANG engineer in BLR?
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