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Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by azeirah »

dgs_sgd wrote: post #147
azeirah wrote: post #141

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I think we're getting closer to a time where smaller players can start competing in the search engine space. Recently here on HN someone launched a search editor for small, niche, seo-free, old, content/text-heavy websites. It's useful because it serves a specific purpose, and can give you very different but useful results due to how it presents its results. Storage is getting cheap, scaling is a solved-ish problem,…

I think this is the one you're talking about? https://search.marginalia.nu/

Yep, marginalia for sure! It's great. I will bookmark it this time :x

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by ksec »

eitland wrote: post #148
ksec wrote: post #123

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>Google, you’re charging into battle with Apple and Zuck and you got a dildo made of American cheese. Good luck. This is rare on HN. But true. Google's new CEO still have a lot to prove. The problem with Google was they were not found upon a product DNA. They have very little if any product sensibility. At this rate, Google search may be first to be disrupted before Facebook. Apple has its cracks but still far too mi…

> At this rate, Google search may be first to be disrupted before Facebook. Apple has its cracks but still far too minor. After a few years of using DDG which is equally bad as Google but has less and less annoying ads I tried out Kagi last week. The difference is so big I don't care to verify with neither DDG nor Google: I know based on long experience how bad their results are. Kagi has so far been a breath of fres…

Yes. And I forgot to mention in my original post, I only just realise very recently, in a lot of cases every single results in the first page are now Ads. Every single one. I have to scroll down to below the fold to get the result I wanted.

I dont think any one at Google cares about UX anymore.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by jaegerpicker »

valine wrote: post #63
lancesells wrote: post #58

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I totally agree but VR from an advertiser that's about as moral as a cigarette company seems to be doing ok and a market leader.

Facebook didn't make oculus, they bought it. So far their main contributions have been to require a Facebook account, and halt development on the next generation flagship PC headset in favor of budget android based VR. IMO racing to the bottom on price when the products still have FOV issues and low frame rates is a huge misstep. It doesn't matter how compelling Facebook's metaverse platform is if the hardware sucks.

Quest hardware doesn't suck though. The future of VR/AR is absolutely wireless and absolutely NOT PC based. PC VR is a niche market and always will be. I have a Rift and rarely use because who wants to be tied to a wired device that you can't see? Facebook has made a ton of mistakes and I'm really not fan but working on the Quest that was not one of them.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by clem »

ilamont wrote: post #157
Andrex wrote: post #14

Whenever I transpose my comments to HN, I usually do some light editing. The following comment is unedited because this headline kinda fired me up. Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. They had a toehold 6-10 years ago which they could have easily kept iterating on…

Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. Not just AR/V like Glass. Web and mobile software, hardware, and platforms. We've seen so many projects launch with incredible hype and die on the vine a few years later or wither to insignificance from lack of customer support,…

Has Stadia died already?

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by Clampower »

dougmwne wrote: post #98
gardaani wrote: post #66

It seems that Google is hiring engineers so that they will be ready when Apple launches the AR/VR device. Within one year after the Apple launch, Google has copied and launched their own version. It won't run as smoothly, but it's cheaper. So, anyone who can't afford to buy the Apple product will buy the Google product. And this is how the duopoly will live forever..

Overly optimistic. Google can't even copy successful products anymore. See smartwatches.

Or Pixel phones. It’s ridiculous that they still can’t distribute them globally. I live in the Netherlands and can’t purchase one anywhere without crossing the border. And if it breaks (which pixels often do) no warranty support.

How can this be company like Google ?

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by dwighttk »

panzagl wrote: post #155
dwighttk wrote: post #67

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Glass had no overlay. You don’t see reality and the screen at the same time. It is reality or the screen. (Just like a phone that isn’t running an AR app) Looking at the screen does obscure your perception of reality because your eye has to change focus. The little prism was transparent but it may as well have been translucent because you couldn’t focus on the screen and the world at the same time.

Sounds like it was just shitty AR

Wasn’t even that.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by reaperducer »

sombremesa wrote: post #137
temporalparts wrote: post #117

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I'm guessing Google VPs make ~5 mil a year, given that L8 engineers make ~1 mil a year [0] [0] levels.fyi

There are huge issues with how these salaries are reported. When you include stock compensation especially: what about vesting schedules and taxes? You can leave a job (by choice or otherwise) where you worked for a year and were making "1 million a year" with less than $300k in total compensation. It feels like a little trick being played on the employees, kind of like unlimited PTO. I'm sure some people actually en…

It feels like a little trick being played on the employees

It's a common trick.

In the 1990's Bill Clinton famously categorized people who made $200,000 a year as "millionaires." Why? Because they "should" be able to save a million dollars within five years.

People in power find it easy to play word games with other people's money.

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Post by sciurus »

dvh wrote: post #121
dehrmann wrote: post #76

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> Google was once an innovator (search, Gmail, Docs) Docs was from an acquisition.

I used to use Google docs because it was faster that starting libre office. Now Google docs starts 15s for empty document.

FWIW on multiple browsers on several different computers I've never had Google docs take anywhere close to 15 seconds to load.

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by sciurus »

clem wrote: post #164
ilamont wrote: post #157

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Considering how Google’s treated AR and VR in the last 10 years, hyping people up then quietly pulling back support and finally cancellation after just 2-3 years, I don’t see this going well. Not just AR/V like Glass. Web and mobile software, hardware, and platforms. We've seen so many projects launch with incredible hype and die on the vine a few years later or wither to insignificance from lack of customer support,…

Has Stadia died already?

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/10/google-stadias-salva...

Re: Google is building a new augmented reality device and operating system

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Post by [deleted] »

romanhn wrote: post #154
sombremesa wrote: post #137

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There are huge issues with how these salaries are reported. When you include stock compensation especially: what about vesting schedules and taxes? You can leave a job (by choice or otherwise) where you worked for a year and were making "1 million a year" with less than $300k in total compensation. It feels like a little trick being played on the employees, kind of like unlimited PTO. I'm sure some people actually en…

It's all fairly straightforward actually, as long as you're familiar with how compensation works at big companies (salary, stock, bonus, refreshers). Blind and levels.fyi have raised the transparency on comp quite a bit. $1M/year total compensation (that's annual comp, not the total four year vest) is reasonable for a L8/director-level at the tech giants. This is before tax of course, which is how literally everyone…

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