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Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by prox »

deathanatos wrote: post #93
SLWW wrote: post #52

Firefox Nightly is a pretty good browser imho Also it just so happens that there are extensions that allow you detailed (read: raw and editable) cookie data for each website you visit!

I use & love Firefox, too, but do note that the author's criticism directly applies to it, too: AFAIK, FF will not show you the individualized cookies, or all you to act on them individually. Now, as you say, you can download an extension (and indeed, I do!), but I think there is some merit to it being in the base app. (E.g., not having to trust an extension. But also, it's part of Firefox 's data, and FF should prov…

I don’t think so, but can’t test right now, pretty sure I deleted cookies and a cache for one particular domain recently.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by sk5t »

codezero wrote: post #75
BoorishBears wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that I think this has actually been applied by anyone in the wild, but it'd be fun to make a site that take advantage of this You can detect developer tools being open in Chrome pretty reliably, so detect dev tools have been open then "clean up your act" before there's a chance to view anything of note

Could you see the original cookie by inspecting the headers of the network request? This would presumably be the value before the page loads and gives access to document.cookie or a change triggered by a server-side header.

Consider using something like https://mitmproxy.org/ to deal with a site so devious as to detect browser-level tools being used to inspect headers/cookies/etc.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by [deleted] »

zmmmmm wrote: post #146

We're getting into the scary space now where it's becoming feasible for sites to insist on Chrome and drop support for other browsers. I've hit two such apps in the last month where not only did the app not work on FireFox, but the experience was completely broken (blank page, etc). So they aren't even bothering with enough testing to put up a "please use chrome" message. I use FireFox for everything personal and Chr…

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Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by the_other »

zmmmmm wrote: post #146

We're getting into the scary space now where it's becoming feasible for sites to insist on Chrome and drop support for other browsers. I've hit two such apps in the last month where not only did the app not work on FireFox, but the experience was completely broken (blank page, etc). So they aren't even bothering with enough testing to put up a "please use chrome" message. I use FireFox for everything personal and Chr…

I ONLY use Chrome when x-browser testing. I browse in Safari and develop and test in FF first. If anyone else’s site or app doesn’t work in Safari or FF, they lose me as a user/customer.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by brnt »

techrat wrote: post #148
brnt wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By default it doesnt, and although I'd certainly advise going over all Brave's settings once, then you have the safest (as in not outdated like some other privacy forks) and privacy respecting Chrome based browser around.

Stop drinking the kool aid, buh. If you have to go over the settings... A safe, privacy respecting browser wouldn't resort to any shady tactics in the first place.

I'm not drinking any koolaid, I just have not found anything better, apart from Firefox.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by warning26 »

echelon wrote: post #152
zmmmmm wrote: post #146

We're getting into the scary space now where it's becoming feasible for sites to insist on Chrome and drop support for other browsers. I've hit two such apps in the last month where not only did the app not work on FireFox, but the experience was completely broken (blank page, etc). So they aren't even bothering with enough testing to put up a "please use chrome" message. I use FireFox for everything personal and Chr…

Demand the break up of Google! Now! Email your reps. Tell them this is dangerous and that Google shouldn't be allowed to run the entire web. Take chrome away!

The issue here is that "making a web browser" isn't a sustainable business. You could force Google to spin off Chrome...and then what? The new "Chrome Inc." would probably need to either start integrating ads or start charging money to even have a chance at not immediately going under.

The only reason Firefox is even able to exist is Google propping them up with lots of extra money.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by butz »

franklyt wrote: post #140
hamburgerwah wrote: post #138

Just how much of a middle finger can they give to users before people wake up and move to Firefox? There was a time Firefox had some performance problems but that time has passed, it works every bit as well as Chrome does now, if not better.

Firefox is not as performant as Chrome is. This is something a web developer will have come across, if not an average user.

While Chrome performance is obviously better for browsing, somehow opening DevTools makes it work much slower. As for casual user, installing ad-blocker makes web browsing way faster.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by loosescrews »

Is it possible that they are combining the pages and will still have the same functionality? I personally find it very confusing that Chrome has two different pages for managing cookies. I pretty much always want the manage individual cookies page, but each time I find the other page first which only lets me clear all cookies and have to track down the page I really want.

Re: Google Chrome to remove detailed cookie and site data controls

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Post by m0zg »

brnt wrote: post #147
techrat wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Brave is just a shitcoin mining, referral link hijacking reskin of Chrome.

By default it doesnt, and although I'd certainly advise going over all Brave's settings once, then you have the safest (as in not outdated like some other privacy forks) and privacy respecting Chrome based browser around.

They also run the only decent, independent search engine that has _its own_, _uncensored_ index. DDG was perceptibly worse than Google, but Brave Search is about on par, and the latency seems to be better as well. I maybe have to go to Google once or twice a month now instead of several times a day DDG would require. I know a bit about Google search, and frankly I'm stunned by what Brave was able to pull off here.

I'm actually not against Firefox either, but they refuse to implement a profile switcher, and I need one to be able to fully and unambiguously isolate my work and personal accounts. What's particularly grating is that they already have profile support. Just not the UX to switch the profiles without pain.

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