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I think it needs Vertical tabs at least
Tree style tabs kept me on Firefox for years beyond when I would have otherwise left. Now I use Brave with an extension that does an ok job of imitating TST. I really wish FF were performant enough that I could justify using it.
I wasn't a huge fan of most of the UI refreshes lately in both Chrome and Firefox, but this is definitely the least welcome so far. I do not really expect these tabs to grow on me. (Also, it obviously looks fine, but I really dislike the new trend of adding a bunch of empty space for no real reason other than aesthetics. The first thing I do in Firefox right now is remove the spacers next to the address bar...)
Those spacers on both sides of the address bar made absolutely no sense, I agree. But there's some logic to the growth of empty space everywhere. Even laptops have touchscreens these days. Click targets need to be bigger because fingers are fatter than mouse pointers. I just wish they'd keep around a compact option for non-touch devices, but unfortunately another recent trend is to get rid of user-configurable option…
I'm pretty excited about this. In general it looks fine, but I really gotta ask - why do browsers always redesign tabs? They don't change in functionality for the most part and yet they always get refreshed. Regardless, excited to try the new design, hopefully they really have streamlined it. I personally find the firefox menu navigation a bit weird and hard to...well navigate through so that's what I'm hoping has be…
Installed the dev edition that has the new design, and I like it as well. Especially the Alpenglow theme that ships with it looks fresh and colorful. Will it make me consider trying it again? Who knows, right now I do like that the feel of it a lot. Might use it as my secondary browser for my while to see how it feels
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So summarizing: its intent isn't clear? FWIW: Pocket is similar in general design to a number of "read it later" services (the Android app is still identified as "com.ideashower.readitlater.pro"), such as the now-defunct Readability, still-extant Instapaper, Maciej Czeglowski's Pinboard, and the FS/OSS Wallabag. There's a ... (very?) loose kinship with tools like Zotero, Calibre, and Elsevier-owned Mandelay, also kno…
It's not Pocket's business to know what I want to read. Never used any of those services and never will unless I could self host it. However I understand that it could be convenient for a lot of people. Anyway, I suspect that the user base of Firefox is getting more hostile to this kind of services as the number of users shrinks and they get more concerned about privacy. To Mozilla: you either push for privacy or you…
You can simply not use Pocket, as with other Firefox capabilities most people don't use. I'm not aware that it exfiltrates data simply by existing.
My open tab count exceeds 1,500 :-/
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It is hate, but worse than that, it’s tedious to read. I saw their video and thought “yep, top comment is going to be about Pocket integration” and it was. It’s the same in every thread about Firefox - someone complaining about pocket, someone complaining about tree style tabs, someone saying they shouldn’t have changed the plug-in model. It would be nice to have some new comments for a change.
The thing is that these are anti-features. The world needs a minimalist browser, which is just single rectangular canvas that renders the web. All other features are unnecessary clutter best left to separate applications, because not everybody needs or wants the same.
If you wanted a specific feature, you'd install an extension / plugin.
Software has been going that way since forever, just think back to Nero Burning Rom. Which went from a very capable, heavily specialized application to burn all kinds of CDs with to a collection of mediocre tools to do everything but burn CDs with.
Firefox doesn't need another UI refresh. It needs performance enhancements and bug fixes. I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for years, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm using second class software.
Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…
I don't understand the hate or why this seems to take so much headspace in so many (or at least here very vocal) minds. It's a single button, not flashy or animated or otherwise annoying. When the rest of the world spies on you or pushes crypto tokens and abuses websites by replacing their ads with own advertisements, that is what bothers you most and makes you consciously choose an outdated version?
This supposed feature is nothing more than a css tweak that somehow needs to upload your urls to this 3rd party provider that is not bound by the privacy guidelines of Mozilla.
It is makes Mozilla a bunch of liars in a way that Google isn't lying. Actually. Google isn't sharing your data with another party.
I wont be switching back to Firefox until they remove the pocket thing and enact policies preventing this from happening again.
Now it's just a worst chrome, with better promises that turn out to be bigger lies.
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Aside from being unwanted, it also is symbolic of much of Mozilla's worst behavior. During launch, it was specifically described as not being a paid placement: "There's no monetary benefit to Mozilla from the integration: Pocket didn't pay for placement in the browser"[1]. This way key to the discussion about why they chose Pocket over any other reading list plugins -- but this turned out to be a lie: "Hum. Apparentl…
Ok so is your issue that Mozilla makes revenue (which I think is GREAT as that gets them off the google dependency) or that it ignores previously set preferences? In the latter case 100% agree and Mozilla is shooting itself in the foot as users that actively turned it off probably simply don't want it and will be a tiny minority. But do we know yet whether this happens again with this update?
Your privacy is not safe with Mozilla. It requires the same level of distrust as other browser vendors, but at least with those vendors people already know. Mozilla luls people in to trusting them and then uses that trust to fund a business model that is specifically about collecting and uploading user data.
I use nightly regularly and was not excited by the new aesthetics, so I would join most of the other commenters here .. but to avoid weighing on the same side of the boat, I'd rather ask what would be a top 10 priority list of features to add / fix in firefox for the HN crowd ?
2 - Resource use more generally. One shitty tab shouldn't make my whole system slow, even outside the browser. Safari (as with the battery life thing) manages this better than the rest. Do that.
Those two are basically table-stakes to get me back to thinking about using it regularly.
3 - I gather from this thread that they collect "telemetry", including mouse movements, on an opt-out basis. We used to call that, unequivocally, spyware. No. Stop. I don't care that a bunch of ad salesmen made this normal, it's still gross.
4 - Better in-browser performance (separate from not junking up my whole system, performance-wise, as in #2)
5 - I think to be compelling, they either need to slim way down, or bulk way up, feature-wise. Either laser-focus on being the light, slim, simple browser that FF hasn't been since like the mid '00s, or integrate more Internet protocols to try to break us out of this crappy local maximum. New social protocols (Mastadon?), maybe pick one of the old-school-web protocols and run with that. Maybe IPFS. Something. Probably several somethings, ideally supporting and enhancing one another. Give me reasons to want to use FF again, either because it does things nothing else does, or because it's lightning fast, has a postage-stamp memory footprint, and is easy on my battery. Notably, I think, the fat-FF route is also a pretty damn clear route to monetization, which they seem to want. I fear they've missed their chance for that, though, and the time to start was at least 5 years ago when they had a huge headcount and lots of money.
I use nightly regularly and was not excited by the new aesthetics, so I would join most of the other commenters here .. but to avoid weighing on the same side of the boat, I'd rather ask what would be a top 10 priority list of features to add / fix in firefox for the HN crowd ?
1 - Battery life. Their last big win was "now only as bad as Chrome, which is still pretty bad!" and that was a while ago. 2 - Resource use more generally. One shitty tab shouldn't make my whole system slow, even outside the browser. Safari (as with the battery life thing) manages this better than the rest. Do that. Those two are basically table-stakes to get me back to thinking about using it regularly. 3 - I gather…