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Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

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post #12

Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…

Only 10% of users are using compact mode: Time to remove it. Only 1% of users are using Pocket: Make it more prominent to increase usage. Data-driven design!

Maybe the kind of people who use compact mode turn off usage statistics, and those who use pocket (non-accidentally) don't turn them off.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#83
post #28

Firefox doesn't need another UI refresh. It needs performance enhancements and bug fixes. I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for years, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm using second class software.

I think it needs Vertical tabs at least

Tree Style Tab does that quite well. Does it need to be built-in?

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#84
post #12

Their video on the front page contradicts itself. They highlight the UI coded by "user interaction" and no surprise, the Pocket button in the URL bar has tiny usage. And yet, in the new design? It's bigger and more prominent. And they try to say this is data-driven in the voice-over. Now, yet again, I'll have to just pin Firefox and stop updating it everywhere for a few months until the inevitable "undo all these cha…

Only 10% of users are using compact mode: Time to remove it. Only 1% of users are using Pocket: Make it more prominent to increase usage. Data-driven design!

I wonder how many users who disable telemetry are also using compact mode and how many people are actually disabling telemetry.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#85
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the hate or why this seems to take so much headspace in so many (or at least here very vocal) minds. It's a single button, not flashy or animated or otherwise annoying. When the rest of the world spies on you or pushes crypto tokens and abuses websites by replacing their ads with own advertisements, that is what bothers you most and makes you consciously choose an outdated version?

I saw criticism in the original comment, maybe cynicism, but no hate. Hate is a strong word, we should not set the bar too low for using it.

It is hate, but worse than that, it’s tedious to read. I saw their video and thought “yep, top comment is going to be about Pocket integration” and it was. It’s the same in every thread about Firefox - someone complaining about pocket, someone complaining about tree style tabs, someone saying they shouldn’t have changed the plug-in model.

It would be nice to have some new comments for a change.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#86
post #28

Firefox doesn't need another UI refresh. It needs performance enhancements and bug fixes. I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for years, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm using second class software.

I think it needs Vertical tabs at least

Tree style tabs kept me on Firefox for years beyond when I would have otherwise left. Now I use Brave with an extension that does an ok job of imitating TST. I really wish FF were performant enough that I could justify using it.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#87
They say they want us to worry less.

This is now making me worry about what I do next. Will it be possible to revert this madness or is it really time to abandon Firefox?

I know that in the big picture it’s small, but a good part of why the Firefox is the UI. In compact mode, with dark theme, on Linux, Firefox is - for me - the ultimate browser UI that just gets out of my way.

This new “modern” look is oversized, distracting and wastes space. Nobody’s asked for it and the blog post wording really sounds like trying to justify change for the sake of it.

Sad times. What has happened to Mozilla?

Am I making too much of it? Maybe, but it’s certainly not making me “worry less”. It’s filling me with dread. And from the other responses here and on Reddit, it’s clear Mozilla is out-of-touch with it’s biggest users.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#88
post #28

Firefox doesn't need another UI refresh. It needs performance enhancements and bug fixes. I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for years, and I'm tired of feeling like I'm using second class software.

I agree. I'm still waiting for completion of the wayland support tracking ticket [1] that was opened a decade ago. [1]: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635134

I've been using Firefox on Wayland for the past year or so. There are still some minor hitches here and there, but it's very usable right now.

Re: Behind the design of the fresh new Firefox coming June 1

#89
post #77
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Back in the early days of Chrome, I definitely feel that a lot of people switched and continued using it because it looked and felt better.

When I use Edge Chrome, ironically gmail tells me to switch to Chrome, that is how people switched to Chrome.

Many people who I know switched to Chrome because I told them to.
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