It'd be a joke if people really think Facebook doesn't tag you at an IP address level either.
Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone
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Actually these type of situation show who are your friends. Your friends will call you, text you and arrange meets. And There’s FaceTime if your far from friend. Stop relying on Facebook to connect you…
Excuse me, but what? My friends text and call me through WhatsApp or Facebook. If anything, me ditching those two services would justify them not reaching out, because it implies I’m the difficult one. Me making it difficult to be reached does not mean they’re not my friends. EDIT: > And There’s FaceTime if your far from friend. Stop relying on Facebook to connect you… I'm not even sure to describe how ignorant this…
make a list
fill it in with alternate contacts
start using those contacts to reach out
wait until they switch too
???
profit!
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Facebook doesn't have access to WhatsApp messages. WhatsApp uses the same end-to-end encryption protocol as Signal. We know this is true because the app has been extensively reverse engineered to create these third party clients among other reasons.
WhatsApp is closed source, so you have no idea what it's doing. And they can push an update doing whatever they wish to you at any moment. You have to rely on Facebook pinky-swearing that it is what they say it is. And I promise you it isn't what they say it is.
Being open source isn't necessary or sufficient to be able to audit a piece of software. Software can be audited even if it's closed source (for example by reverse engineering, although it's more difficult), and even if it's open source it might still be impractically difficult for non-experts to audit.
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That’s exactly my point, I can’t justify deleting it.
Some people shift to Telegram / Signal if they can get their friends to install them.
I did this. Shifted the whole family to Telegram, and am hoping Signal catches up so we can switch to that.
I do have a few members of the family on Signal already though. They're just the ones that don't mind giving up stickers and the nice interface
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#165Or just delete Facebook apps.
Unfortunately it's not that simple for everyone. I personally would lose contact with a lot of people if I delete Messenger or Whatsapp. On all my contacts, I have two on Signal, zero on Matrix.
I ditched fb with the understanding that comms will be difficult for a bit.
Family and friends adapted, most without prompting.
I'd say try it but be prepared for an ego check if nobody follows haha
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You lose useful features like finding photos based on location if you don't remember the date it was taken. I think the better option is: (1) Make it obvious when location data is being included with a photograph, and exclude it by default - especially if the app doesn't already have Precise Location access. (2) Apps that manage your entire photo library and all its EXIF data (think Amazon Photos / Google Photos, or…
Yes, the iOS photo library API should really strip out the EXIF data before passing to apps unless the user has let them have access to it - I bet this will be added at some point. Facebook would like to access your photos: Select Photos All Photos Strip location and other metadata
They already handle stripping Live Photos (removing the video) so they should be able to strip other metadata.
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Yes, but only if everyone else was convinced it was malware, too. "Facebook invades privacy" is still a minority opinion among their user base (whether we like it or not).
Looking forward to 2060 when you can't participate in society any more unless you connect your brain to a cloud run by a facebook subsidiary, giving them access to all your thoughts, memories, etc. Everyone is connected to it. What's your problem?
Yes, we've all seen that(those) episode(s) of Black Mirror.
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Well of course, but we all know Facebook isn't a responsible company and Apple shouldn't assume that every app in its store is made by a responsible company.
They're currently in court arguing about how they make users safer by curating the available software. Issues like this don't reflect well on that argument.
They reflect very well.
Now that this vulnerability has been identified, they can fix it and solve the problem for their users.
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#170Beginning to think the reason security is so difficult is because ostensibly "good" companies do everything an attacker does and worse, but under the guise of EULAs. Here's a thought experiement: If Facebook were malware, could you get rid of it?
Many of my friends on FB know that their data is being harvested, and simply don't care.
As for me, I would use an alternative platform in a heartbeat, but all the privacy focused ones so far have not gained any traction.