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Oh no a person on the internet thinks bad of me
well it was a nice try mr zuckerberg
Don’t make me kick you off insta
Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone
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Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone
#142Not if you don’t install any of their apps. I use it as a web site which is enough to post pics of kids for relatives, pretty much my only use for it.
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It is though. It's astonishing how little people are willing to sacrifice for their ideals. If you don't have an issue with Facebook then disregard and continue using their services. If you do have a problem then try being the change you want to see. Tend your garden. You cannot control other people but you can control yourself.
"Be the change you want to see" doesn't really work for society level collective action problems. My concern with Facebook isn't that they have too much information about me, it is that they know too much about my country's citizens in aggregate (and thus can manipulate them). Whether I opt out has a real impact on me, but zero impact on whether they can run disinformation campaigns and swing elections.
>Whether I opt out has a real impact on me, but zero impact on whether they can run disinformation campaigns and swing elections.
Being the change you want to see doesn't automatically mean the world changes. It just means live with principles regardless of external factors. You don't like Facebook? Then don't use Facebook. It's as simple as that. Others can take it or leave it.
I just see it as people complaining about Facebook while continuing to use Facebook so it must not be a very big deal to them.
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This doesn't provide end-to-end-encryption for WhatsApp so I'd actually call this worse than just using WhatsApp in the first place. Facebook gets all the data and your messages are stored somewhere (either at Beeper or on your own server) as plaintext.
You think Facebook does not have access to Whatsapp messages ? Would be very surprised if thats not the case.
They have the metadata I presume - who you text, how much and when, and that's probably pretty valuable in itself.
Even if you put in no personal data to FB at all they create a ghost profile that will be very accurate based on who you are connected to.
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Unfortunately it's not that simple for everyone. I personally would lose contact with a lot of people if I delete Messenger or Whatsapp. On all my contacts, I have two on Signal, zero on Matrix.
People used to send emails.
People used to send writing on paper in an envelope. Some still do. Perhaps one thing that’s not being said is the degree we each care about communication relative to how we communicate; this is a very personal topic. I am one who deleted all social media (except HN; joined recently because the stress of it is lower and I still like to share) and one who is comfortable with the slow pace of letters and email-as-letters. I’m of the Star Wars generation, growing up with computers and still knowing what is was like to place orders by calling on a rotary phone the number on the back of the catalog.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is though. It's astonishing how little people are willing to sacrifice for their ideals. If you don't have an issue with Facebook then disregard and continue using their services. If you do have a problem then try being the change you want to see. Tend your garden. You cannot control other people but you can control yourself.
"Be the change you want to see" doesn't really work for society level collective action problems. My concern with Facebook isn't that they have too much information about me, it is that they know too much about my country's citizens in aggregate (and thus can manipulate them). Whether I opt out has a real impact on me, but zero impact on whether they can run disinformation campaigns and swing elections.
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Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone
#147i use jailbreak to control my location better - i can more easily de/activate it and spoof my location. Now, I noticed a weird behaviour. I am not sure if its a 'bug' due to jailbreak, or if it shows how apps can access location. The setup is as follows: location services are completely deactivated system-wide. a spoof location is set. This means, I am not able in any way to access/share my location, neither the real…
> why would you take a picture with location data and upload it to facebook
You could argue that most people don't know the location data is there. But at the same time, if you're doing something you want to keep secret, you probably shouldn't be uploading pictures of it to Facebook anyway.
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Interesting, can you say what country you are thinking about?
I don't know about Facebook but here in Sweden we have several systems where you need to use Google, and of course accept Google's terms in order to do that. One example is the health care centers and hospitals that uses Google Maps. Another example being the schools that forces the students to use Chromebooks (and apps like GMail, Google Classroom, Google Docs, etc), and Google forms for requesting information about…
That sounds like something a class action law suit waiting to happen.
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Yes, they very publicly state that they do not have access and I have yet to see a reason to not believe them in that regard. All big Facebook data leaks and hacks have just exploited not very well known APIs or badly set privacy settings. But nothing that was secret.
They are lying when they say this. I promise you Facebook MITMs WhatsApp communications for oppressive regimes.
Source?
Re: Facebook still ‘secretly’ tracks your iPhone
#150Beginning to think the reason security is so difficult is because ostensibly "good" companies do everything an attacker does and worse, but under the guise of EULAs.
Here's a thought experiement: If Facebook were malware, could you get rid of it?