Facebook freezes Venezuela president Maduro's page over Covid-19

Post by geoduck14 » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 8:07 PM UTC

gameswithgo wrote: post #152

abhinav22 wrote: post #2

Not sure about this - I don’t think government leaders or anybody should be censored. Better to have public health messages as part of the platform than to censor It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent (Clearly the content in question is wrong; but in other cases, WHO and others been proven incorrect - eg on masks and asymptotic transmission) Don’t know what the answer is, we don’t want echo cha…

Well then you can pay for some servers for people to post text and leave up the text that you think is reasonable.

Post by concordDance » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 8:12 PM UTC

whymauri wrote: post #39

concordDance wrote: post #11

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> recommending bleach injections This is a mischaracterization.

Sure, whatever you say. Here's the quote since apparently we've all forgotten: >"A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brou…

Post by concordDance » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 8:17 PM UTC

whymauri wrote: post #42

DiogenesKynikos wrote: post #38

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A slight mischaracterization (doctors should do it, instead of people should do it themselves), and the original does not make Trump look any better. Edit: Looking again, OP did not misrepresent Trump's comment at all. Trump did clearly recommend that doctors try injecting disinfectants (including bleach) into patients.

That's what I find most incredible about this thread and the confidence of the person denying something Trump said on the record . It hasn't even been a year and we're already forgetting the dumpster fire that was the original response to COVID.

Post by concordDance » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 8:23 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #96

concordDance wrote: post #9

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> It’s a fine line between hate and misinformation and dissent "Hate" is a pretty Orwellian[1] word in this context, with a meaning pretty far from its usage a couple of decades ago. Most usage I've seen has a distictively political bend. E.g. "X are stupid and science proves it!" is not hate when X is "conservatives" but is when X is "muslims". [1] see the section on meaningless words: https://www.orwell.ru/library/…

I don't think anyone claims that "X is stupid" is hate, regardless of how broad or nonsensical X is. X should die, or X are vile subhumans stealing our jobs, or we should rape X, or X are raping our dogs is hate.

Post by lucian1900 » Sat, Mar 27, 2021, 8:24 PM UTC

alkonaut wrote: post #150

lucian1900 wrote: post #134

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There are other sources too, like https://thegrayzone.com/category/venezuela/ or https://www.telesurtv.net/SubSecciones/en/country/venezuela/ or https://venezuelanalysis.com

Really? I post some recent academic papers and you respond with “yeah but what about Telesur?”. I have to stop wasting my time trying to discuss politics online. > Telesur works as a propaganda network for the governments of Hugo Chávez and Nicolás Maduro (Wikipedia) I’m sure their coverage has the very best quality.