MacBook Owners' Butterfly Keyboard Lawsuit Gets Class Action Certification • Hacker News Board

Re: MacBook Owners' Butterfly Keyboard Lawsuit Gets Class Action Certification

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Post by d1zzy » Wed, Mar 24, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

marshmallow_12 wrote: post #62

cletus wrote: post #18

I actually blame Johnny Ive for this clusterf*ck. Ive famously pursued a crusade for thinness. It's said that design is the art of compromise. Well, Ive took a no compromises approach to thinness and it showed. Look no further than the 12" Macbook. One port (also needed for power), lower power CPU and (I believe?) the start of the dreaded butterfly keyboard. IIRC the butterfly keyboard's raison d'etre was to shave ha…

complain as much as you like, and you may be mostly correct. But you overlooked one absolutely brilliant piece of Apple technology: the ipod nano 7. (insert hysterical laughter). Make fun if you want, it's obsolete, only 16gb, poor battery, old bluetooth etc. You are right, but i challenge anyone to show me anything comparable, with such a good touchscreen, that is slim enough that you don't feel it in your pocket .…

My wife liked it so much we bought a couple of new ones when the product was retired just to make sure we'll have at least one working for decades to come. Still using one every day.

Re: MacBook Owners' Butterfly Keyboard Lawsuit Gets Class Action Certification

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Post by ActorNightly » Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 8:45 PM UTC

nikanj wrote: post #114

ActorNightly wrote: post #30

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The thing with "windows" laptops is that you can install and run Linux seamlessly out of the box, even distros that Mimic the look of OSX, and remap the keys to your hearts content.

What people in the OSS land don't seem to understand is that the button shapes and control colors are not the killer feature of MacOS. I can get a "looks like OSX" theme for KDE easily, but KDE will still be weirdly unstable, and have tons of impedance mismatch between it's components. You can't make a Ferrari out of a Ford by painting it the right shade of red.

I dunno if you have never used modern linux, but the current state of it is that you can install Pop OS on a laptop and hand it to your parents and they will figure out how to use it, without ever touching the terminal.

I also don't understand how people say Macs are stable. I get the spinny thing that locks up the entire system about once a week.

Re: MacBook Owners' Butterfly Keyboard Lawsuit Gets Class Action Certification

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Post by 650REDHAIR » Tue, Mar 30, 2021, 7:19 AM UTC

InvaderFizz wrote: post #96

650REDHAIR wrote: post #70

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My XPS 9550 had two batteries swell and the 2nd time it broke my upper case and trackpad. I replaced the case, trackpad, and keyboard, but Dell won't sell me a battery and their batteries have DRM so you can't use a 3rd party unit. My top of the line, i7, 32gb ram, 2gb gpu, 1tb nvme drive laptop is now no better than a paperweight. When plugged into shore power you can't get max CPU or GPU power and it's an annoying…

> Dell won't sell me a battery and their batteries have DRM so you can't use a 3rd party unit. Are you sure you can't use a third party battery? Plenty of hits on Amazon for Chinese branded ones. I replaced a XPS 9570 battery with a Chinese one a few months ago, seems fine to me.

Missed this previously, sorry!

Yes. I've tried flashing older BIOS versions. Multiple new chargers. I've tried 5 different batteries from Amazon and eBay. 2 have worked for a hot minute before failing to be recognized. I've popped in the swollen battery to test to make sure something else wasn't working and the swollen battery stays recognized.

Reading Reddit/talking to others in similar positions it's hit or miss whether the specific machine will work. I can't find a pattern with BIOS version, model, dates, etc. To date I've probably spent 30 hours troubleshooting and I've given up :(

Re: MacBook Owners' Butterfly Keyboard Lawsuit Gets Class Action Certification

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Post by rbreaves » Sat, Apr 03, 2021, 7:42 AM UTC

quesera wrote: post #31

ActorNightly wrote: post #30

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The thing with "windows" laptops is that you can install and run Linux seamlessly out of the box, even distros that Mimic the look of OSX, and remap the keys to your hearts content.

> even distros that Mimic the look of OSX, and remap the keys to your hearts content Sadly, they mimic the macOS UI very poorly, and it remains not-possible in Linux to universally remap keyboard shortcuts to match macOS built-in sanity.

You should really take a look at https://ubuntubudgie.org.. it does not mimic the UI poorly at all.. the welcome app easily gets you to a dark mojave looking theme and then you can change the layout to cupertino for the global menu. Also open up budgie-settings to set the overall system theme to dark and that is literally all you have to do..

Also use waterfox instead of firefox if you want the browser to give you a proper global menu, or use chrome.