Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…
Do you have a link for the FBI prevented plot? Edit: thank you (both)
ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The cognitive dissonance and total denial is off the charts with telecom and tech leaders who don't realize (or care) that their massive growth has played a large role in global civil unrest. I wouldn't leave out leaders in other industries as well: finance, energy, etc… TBTF/ TBTJ policies can incentivize this type of stuff as all other options to date seem to cause no effective changes.
100 percent true. No shortage of blame to go around and this is certainly not new either. We've just accelerated very fast during a year of deep suffering and this kind of thing is inevitable, sadly. I'm a firm believer in wielding antitrust law to break the biggest corpos up, no matter the sector.
> I'm a firm believer in wielding antitrust law to break the biggest corpos up, no matter the sector.
I'm a firm believer that no amount of legislation will change the direction of the ship we're on… k street wont have it any other way…
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
AT&T says that their services went down along with the gas & power in the area, as a side effect: the gas shutoff cut off their backup generators. That doesn't sound all that targeted.
While I'm only speculating, it could be quite possible that whoever may have wished to damage or destroy the AT&T building, seriously underestimated what these kind of buildings can take (essentially being disguised bunkers). This certainly wasn't a small explosion, from the looks of it. But taking out a bunker .. unless you have access to weapons specially build for that purpose, good luck. That AT&T still went down…
>While I'm only speculating, it could be quite possible that whoever may have wished to damage or destroy the AT&T building, seriously underestimated what these kind of buildings can take (essentially being disguised bunkers).
Which somehow makes it more plausible to me? The type of insane person who would do this seems like the type of insane person who would underestimate how reinforced such a building is.
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#164This article doesn't make this so explicit, but ATT infrastructure appears to be the intentional target of the bombing. You can see the building in the helicopter shot at the top of the NYTimes article on the story: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/25/us/nashville-explosion.ht... Obviously a telecommunications/switch hub, with it being a large windowless building in a downtown core. The other thing that's particularly…
What is the source for AT&T being the intentional target? Maybe it just happened to be the building in the background?
if you look at the map on the opposite side of the street/block its filled with random pubs/liquor stores/restaurants. do you really think the target was random restaurants?
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Speculation at this point will get us nowhere. If there were some reason like "5g bad" or "dont kill movie theatres" (regarding HBO max release of WW1984) there would be a video from the bomber pushing their message since, otherwise, this looks like any other terror attack.
> this looks like any other terror attack. In what way? It sounds more like something the Joker or unabomber would pull off
Weekend car bombings in non-residential areas with advanced warning is what you’d read if you picked up a textbook on the IRA.
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#166Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…
What we're seeing is a "stochastic insurgency" where loosely affiliated groups and individuals conceive, plan and execute infrastructure attacks and targeted assassinations. Relatively little operational coordination; but lots of online showing support and post-crime support. I hope all congressional representatives and local government officials are reviewing their safety plans.
Stochastic terrorism abound indeed - a couple days ago in WA there was a massive train derailment and fire at a Berkshire Hathaway railway previously targeted by arrested saboteurs. They were anarchists rallying under the cover of Antifa, one such decentralized stochastic phenomenon.
https://komonews.com/news/local/oil-train-derailed-near-site...
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given what little we know, targeting the AT&T infrastructure could be a reasonable guest a motive. The blast itself didn’t seem to take the hub offline; there was a broken water main followed by AT&T being refused access to the building by emergency response. It appears that things started cascading a few hours later, presumably once the generator fuel was exhausted.
It's probably not very productive to guess at the purpose with so little to go on. But if that's what we're doing, then my bet is on "overwhelming law enforcement and emergency response so a different crime can go undetected".
Why Nashville then?
I used to work in 111 8th Ave (a big meet-me facility in New York City) and "National Security Agency" was on the building directory. Why risk killing civilians to wiretap Nashville? They can probably ask nicely ("nicely") and get whatever they want.
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#168I am overcome with curiosity about who did this and why. The fact that nobody has claimed responsibility makes no sense. If this were a politically motivated attack, domestic or otherwise, it would almost defeat the point to have the name of your cause omitted from those initial headlines. And sparing the lives of the bystanders also doesn’t make sense for a political attack. I heard the NRA gave warnings but the rea…
> And I would guess he was in the vehicle when it exploded.
Yeah, because moving an RV remotely is impossible with today's tech…
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#169Earlier quoted context omitted.
AT&T says that their services went down along with the gas & power in the area, as a side effect: the gas shutoff cut off their backup generators. That doesn't sound all that targeted.
There is 0 doubt that they were targeting the hub, they parked right beside that building, not on the side of the street with restaurants. There is a gaping hole in the side of the building, though how much damage was done isn't known. Some services were affected before they had to cut the generators, per some reports. Internet and cellular is still down, and our DirecTV local channels went black right when they cut…
They also had an announcement warning people to evacuate, so they clearly weren't optimizing for casualties. I don't think "which side of the street" tells us anything.
Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
100 percent true. No shortage of blame to go around and this is certainly not new either. We've just accelerated very fast during a year of deep suffering and this kind of thing is inevitable, sadly. I'm a firm believer in wielding antitrust law to break the biggest corpos up, no matter the sector.
> I'm a firm believer in wielding antitrust law to break the biggest corpos up, no matter the sector. I'm a firm believer that no amount of legislation will change the direction of the ship we're on… k street wont have it any other way…
Heh. Maybe I should start looking at property in Costa Rica or Finland or somewhere just totally away from it all.