Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google

Post by PZ81JUXJE7uJ » Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 6:56 PM UTC

ronlobo wrote: post #84

ArchD wrote: post #55

Nextcloud and owncloud are written in PHP like so are many other web server apps, especially wiki servers. I've always had misgivings about the security of using and running PHP. Does PHP software still tend to be insecure as in the past? Why are there so many web apps (especially wiki servers) written in PHP instead of e.g. Python, Rust or some other language?

They even had to come up with their own security scanner ( https://scan.nextcloud.com/ ). I assume because they don't even trust their own code mess or cause you can f-up your PHP conf in so many ways that your server becomes vulnerable.

Post by segmondy » Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 7:16 PM UTC

nr2x wrote: post #42

I had a few instances of OwnCloud and various NAS setups over the years. Then I had a kid and dumped everything into iCloud when I realized I’d no longer have time to keep it all secure/patched. Time cost of these setups is real.

Post by nobody9999 » Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 7:25 PM UTC

ulisesrmzroche wrote: post #156

nobody9999 wrote: post #95

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>And nobody is forcing you to watch the ads -- you can get rid of them for $12/mo. Or are you saying that you expect people to produce quality content for you for free? They are not. And I generally don't. In fact, I rarely watch YouTube. When I do, it's generally to find a specific song or video clip (both usually decades old) to forward along to someone else. In those situations, I would be shocked if the "owner" o…

I don't see your point. You didn't buy the YouTube content. You're watching it for free. How about you just don't watch YouTube?

Post by amelius » Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 8:59 PM UTC

jmnicolas wrote: post #160

amelius wrote: post #152

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The point is that a subscription with a 2TB harddrive is much more expensive than a subscription with a 100GB harddrive. I just want a to pay a fair price. Not a price based on ungrounded assumptions. It's like going to a restaurant where the food is cheap but the drinks are crazy expensive.

Whatever disk capacity you buy your data sits on multiple disks running 24/7. It costs electricity + maintenance when disks break. If you want a fixed price you have to do it your self. It will be cheaper, but less safe, less accessible and more involved.

Post by rakoo » Sun, Dec 20, 2020, 11:41 PM UTC

Shared404 wrote: post #107

kmclean wrote: post #47

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Yeah I'm a little worried about the maintenance burden, tbh. I'm not actually a linux/sysadmin type person, but I was pretty keen to achieve my goal of being Google free by 2021 (which I'm happy to announce with this migration that I did :), though I still watch youtube anonymously sometimes). But I'm not sure it'll be the most ideal solution for the long term. I'll see what the maintenance burden actually is like th…

One option which is what I've been doing is just using SFTP. I find that that reduces the maintenance burden to just keeping a machine running and patched. I also set up a read-only web frontend with NGINX's directory indexing + htaccess so I can share files easily.