Great to see this article here :-) nextcloud is easily one of the most popular apps on our platform cloudron and it's for selfhosters what wordpress is for web hosters (meaning: a love/hate relationship). Happy to answer any questions on next cloud.
Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google
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Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google
#52The one thing really keeping me from getting off Google is YouTube. For everything else there are good alternatives. But YouTube really is the only viable player in the online video game.
Yeah I still use youtube sometimes, but I do it without an account. You do lose a lot, like remembering what you watched and better recommendations, but you also win some, like Google not remembering what you watched :)
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oracle Cloud has the best Compute/VM Always Free Tier around (2x 1G RAM/50G VMs), which is likely sufficient for a small matrix/synapse server, so realistically you could do it for zero. I don’t know how much network transfer is included in their free tier, however (I’ve looked but never seen it clearly stated anywhere).
So, what, Google is bad now, and Oracle good? Funny world.
Good until they capture enough market share to stop bribing people to switch.
Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google
#54I would suggest Hetzner's storage share (their managed Nextcloud hosting) [1]. Their pricing starts at €2.90/mo for 100GB of storage, which is significantly cheaper than what is mentioned in the post ($5/mo for 25GB). [1] https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share
That page seems focused on the file storage aspect. Does Storage Share also include other Nextcloud features like calendar?
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#55Nextcloud and owncloud are written in PHP like so are many other web server apps, especially wiki servers.
I've always had misgivings about the security of using and running PHP. Does PHP software still tend to be insecure as in the past? Why are there so many web apps (especially wiki servers) written in PHP instead of e.g. Python, Rust or some other language?
Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google
#56Setup nextcloud 2 years ago as part of a FreeNAS install. It runs in a jail and dumps my files to the local, shared filesystem as a result. I also put the nextcloud clients on my phone so that my photos auto-upload to my NAS vs google photos. It's been quite nice to be able to just drop files to it, right click, then share someone a link to those files.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Tried remote storage and its slow like you mention, but once I ran it on a ryzen desktop with a hdd for storage the whole thing is incredibly fast and works great.
Hmmm, I have a small BuyVM Ryzen-based KVM vm (I think lives on local SSD storage but can’t remember) that’s been idling for quite some time— might have to give it a whirl, thanks.
Still waiting on a Luxembourg KVM slice to come in stock.
Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google
#58shameless ad: looking for a simpler way to host nextcloud? try homedrive[1] :)
[1]: https://homedrive.io
Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google
#59I’m a solo person on google enterprise for $20 a month. It sadly cannot be beat. Unlimited storage (almost 40TB) and email is all I care about and it works pretty much flawlessly (besides this weeks outage). I wouldn’t want to have the hassle of running it myself nor the price of storing all that data. So sadly I remain with google.
Not to mention you’re less likely to get hit with ransomware. Nextcloud pwnage seems much more likely.
Putting anything behind a firewall in combination with a VPN can be relatively turn key and self patching without too much effort.
Docker wi5 a tool like proxmox can go a very, very long way in a matter of a few days... and provide near identical vps maintainability.
Hardware is much more reliable and self monitoring than it used to be.
Re: Setting up your own Nextcloud instance to get off of Google
#60someone please help me understand all the hype about nextcloud. I've tried it and found it to be a bloated mess. Why would I want to run this over several smaller apps that do the job better, just without a fancy (if you could call it that) UI to tie it all together
Low / no maintenance of services and software is huge.
The cloud seems maintenance free until the plan or features change or go away altogether.